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coldtea 35 minutes ago

>But isn't that "burden" on others always going to be there, whether you or AI wrote it? That's what communicating is...

Not the same burden.

The value of the person is digesting and giving the materially important stuff in the answer (including their expertise and opinion). Not the AI diarrhea.

nchmy 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

I made some ninja edits, so perhaps you didn't see them. But it is entirely possible that both a person and an Ai could produce writing that is both good or bad, useful or misleading.

You can also direct the Ai to write about specific points and, again, it may write somehing good or bad. I provided a link to a chat I had with chatgpt about this very conversation and it shows everything I was saying.

The fundamental issue is whether people are taking responsibility to communicate what needs to be communicated, in an effective manner. Whether the final words were authored by Ai or not is largely irrelevant.

croon a minute ago | parent | next [-]

> The fundamental issue is whether people are taking responsibility to communicate what needs to be communicated, in an effective manner.

While I agree with your overall distinction, I believe the scenario you portray is so unrealistic that you will never encounter it.

Yes; if I could wrangle Claude into communicating exactly as I would have, the practical difference is of course not observable. But that's never happened, and I've had an enterprise license at work for years.

The value in having a human write it is that whenever something bad/misleading/redundant is introduced, that person will learn from the feedback, but an AI will at best have some memory/skill/prompt nudge for next time that might have a shallow/localized band-aid effect, but will never stop doing similar mistakes another time.

coldtea 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>I made some ninja edits, so perhaps you didn't see them. But it is entirely possible that both a person and an Ai could produce writing that is both good or bad, useful or misleading.

Theoritically yes. In practice:

- AI responses I get are walls of written dhiarrea.

- I'd rather get the bad/misleading/not-useful response from the person, rather that the good one they made via AI. This way I know they don't know what they're doing, are bad communicators, depend purely on the AI, and thus their position can be eliminated or replaced by someone cheaper merely relaying to/from the AI.

je42 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For me, being quite "dyslectic" - LLM generated sentences have the advantage of being spelled correctly and being grammartically correct. I rather prefer iterating over LLM text than writing it by myself. Example: Typing this simple text above by myself was not straight forward.

bayindirh 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The thing is, I expect the person who sent me something to know about and understood what they have sent me.

I don’t expect the other person to copy my response to the same chat and paste the AI response back even without reading it.

Don’t be a meat proxy.

jorisw 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

My problem isn't who wrote it, but the pretense of something having written by a person while it wasn't.

There's something profoundly disrespectful about it towards the receiver.

nchmy a minute ago | parent [-]

Oh very much agreed. It fundamentally destroys someone's reputation when they refuse to acknowledge that Ai wrote something.

Far better, and frankly perfectly acceptable, to say or have it implied or concluded, that Ai helped with the writing in some way. Still, if you're paying attention, it often shouldnt really be all that detectable because you should be aware of AI's smells and you can edit them away. Though, sometimes I'll leave it as obvious that Ai produced something I shared - eg making a well formatted github issue or whatever. But I'll also make sure to convey that a thinking human was behind it, vetted it etc