They did walk that back, you are able to use an Anthropic login in a non-anthropic harness. (For now.)

(Edit: I failed too mention, using a different harness with a CC/Anthropic subscription bumps you up to the pay-per-token rate.)

▲ alanwreath 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Doing the whole “pay per token rate” when logging into a harness not made by them is not only being enforced by anthropic/claude though. It also is what Google does with agy (their TUI).

Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support.

  > TLDR: they are all probably doing it because they are banking on you not using all your tokens.

I would be surprised though, it makes business sense to make the default vendor native TUI cheaper because it’s understood that most nascent users will just use the harness offered by the LLM provider and those that would stray off that would probably be more power users who would spend their token share more consistently till it drains.

	▲	agentdev001 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		OpenAI allows you to use the subsidized limits outside of their products. I don't think they clearly "tell" the world that this is the case, but they do put out a product surface that- I dont think they would, if they didnt allow this usage. This is... close. They offer ways to leverage openai subscription directly for 3rd party app use. https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app-server
	▲	areoform 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		`> Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support.` Yes, IIRC, OpenAI. In sama we trust??

▲ andai 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah and it bills extra usage? Or did they walk that back too.. gotta keep the customers on their toes!

	▲	agentdev001 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Shoot, yes. The user experience of logging in is the same, but yes- using a different (non-cc) harness bumps you up to the pay-per-token rates. However! I have seen projects which use CC under the hood, in order to get the subsidized rates. Writing comments which get me to go look through anthropic documentation, and find friction I wasnt aware of (CC does not have an app-server), refreshes my frustration towards anthropic.