> Samsung just includes too much overlapping bloat "features"

Yep, that's a major drawback. My partner has a Samsung phone and seeing all of the included bloatware, plus the terrible updates and add even more, made me not even consider one of their devices last time I bought a phone.

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calvinmorrison 4 hours ago | parent [-]

how about any time the system updates it automatically installs gambling apps on my phone?

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microtonal 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you sure it's not some carrier install? (Which are apparently a thing in the US.)

I have never seen anything like that on a flagship Samsung, nor our daughter's A series.

	▲	TaLiTr 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		At work we bought a used tablet off eBay to replace a customer device where they really wanted an identical (obsolete) model. OMG the amount of extra crap that Verizon branded tablet had pre-installed was agonizing. All system apps so you couldn't get rid of it.
	▲	calvinmorrison an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		i take the position that it's all dog shit and i dont care whos fault it is, all of these people need to be put in front of a tribunal and justice done