At this point I believe that when people do not cite using AI to generate their comment it's from a position of malice... like you're intentionally trying to position yourself as capable in whatever subject you're talking on but realistically you are not given the reliance on an LLM. Not saying anything about OP but just a general observation/opinion I've been building recently. Seems more common than ever to larp using AI.

	▲	TZubiri an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I did it once when I tried vibecoding, to a friend, nothing professional, and I watched myself stop at the explanation of how I did something. I think it comes from a place of desire, self delusion and shame (of not being able to do it alone), very similar to lying in general, people lie about what they want to be the truth.

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orphea 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> quoting and citing an LLM is miles better

Not really. If someone is interested in an LLM's opinion, they can ask it themselves, all LLM providers are one browser tab away.

	▲	TZubiri 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm as antiAI as many. And this isn't a great example, but there's can be value added in both the context and the prompt. E.g: "I recall topic X being related to fact Y. Chatgpt says this when asked about how Y relates to X "blablabla" "

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TZubiri 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is that 100M of openrouter revenue? Or money that flows through openrouter? If the latter, 100M$ annualized looks like very little. It's as if a bank said that it has 100M$ of annual transfers, instead of 100M in revenue from bank fees and such.

Hard to think of any type of company that can do the topline meme as effectively as a compute aggregator proxy. Almost like a bitcoin pool mining company counting their shared miners.

Really? 100M annual? That HAS to be profit, it can't be this crazy.

EDIT: From their website, they say they have 200T monthly tokens, at 10 cents per M token ( optimistic average between free tokens and expensive tokens) that's 20M$/month, which is roughly 240M$.

Bonus track: here's chatgpt completely fumbling the above very simple calculation

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a85f831-9118-83e9-8a06-d32195c557...

I don't doubt the chinese bootleg product that openrouter is peddling is even worse than that.

We are in a bubble confirmed.

Sorry for the negativity, but this is highly bearish news.

	▲	Taikhoom10 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		We are in a bubble, but you are looking at this in the wrong way. OpenRouter basically creates lock-in through Stripe's distribution and family of products; it is much stronger within Stripe than alone. I agree valuations are absurd, but it is what it is. But if we have to go through a bubble for a16z to crash and burn, I am all for it.