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Someone1234 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> For all the hate I have for the COVID vaccine

Can you clarify that? It saved 100K+ lives even by incredibly conservative estimates, and allowed life to returned to normal at least a year earlier than otherwise.

zulux 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I thankfully figured out my young children didn't need COVID vaccines. A little grumpy that the medical profession pushed them on children when they really did know that children weren't at risk nearly as much by then.

Sloppy thinking like this is how we get RFK, love him or loathe him.

martythemaniak 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You got RFK because half the population thought they were unique snowflakes who could not abide by the same simple rules as everyone else. The price he'll extract is significant impacts on health, wealth and well-being.

cassidius 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Except that your children are still vectors for getting others sick. Vaccines are there not just for you but your community.

declan_roberts an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't speak for other people but I was upset to enter a medical era where bureaucrats were forcing medical decisions on me. I was forced to get it or lose my job despite 1) working remotely, 2) having already had Covid and 3) being healthy and not at risk of Covid death but being the largest risk for myocarditis.

Arkhaine_kupo 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I was upset to enter a medical era

Did we enter a new era or where you not paying attention or affecting you before?

Reminds me of the old adage of:

Q: "Why is no one speaking about this?"

R: "Is no one talking about this, or are you just 20 and its the first time you are hearing about it?"

searine 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because, it is always all about you...

martythemaniak 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is that when you entered that era? Or did you enter it when you were a newborn in the hospital, or a kid entering school?

hdhdhsjsbdh 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Americans are so silly. Resentful of being told to do anything for their own good or the good of others because of “individual liberty”, yet so willing to lick the boot of the police state and corrupt crony capitalists. Good news for you is that Elon went in and set the bureaucrats straight, so enjoy your diarrhea and glass in your food.

bhaak an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What are the reasons for the hate of the COVID vaccine?

nyanmatt 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer, based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

declan_roberts an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably one of the most polarizing issues of the last 5 years.

epistasis 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"Polarizing" is a word that kind of applies, especially if one is trying to be polite, but really it's one of the most politically disinformed issues in a long long time.

A bunch of grifters pushed fear, uncertainty, and doubt for personal gain, at the expense of the health of the nation. I try not to blame people who got tricked, but at some point we need to treat people like adults who are responsible for their own actions, and hold them accountable for the harm they perpetuate by believing BS and acting on it.

A democracy cannot function when its members are low-functioning, and when bad information dominates. Those who spread disinformation, relish the conspiracy and disinformation because it makes them feel special emotionally, and wallow in the mess of it, are hurting us all.

Arkhaine_kupo 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

> A democracy cannot function when its members are low-functioning, and when bad information dominates.

A discussion as old as time. Plato considered voting a skill, and if you were shit at it, then you shouldnt be voting

Insanity an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't recall it being as polarizing outside of the US, where there was a larger group of anti-vaxxers to begin with. But that might be my "outside US" bubble.

user43928 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know how things were in the US, but it was polarizing in Europe too.

People were holding protests. I know two friends who refused to get the vaccine and downloaded forged documents to be admitted into bars and clubs.

Very anecdotal, but after we went out together they both contracted Covid and had a high fever, while I luckily remained healthy.

estearum 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

And, critically, a malignant narcissist in the highest office.

tasty_freeze 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a legitimate discussion of what can be mandated you do to your body.

However, that discussion was largely side-tracked by the massive amount of disinformation (eg, "Plandemic") that circulated online. There are people who to this day swear that COVID-19 was just like the flu and simultaneously claim that the vaccine spike proteins have killed around 20M people. Not just crackpots, but people with reach, like Brett Weinstein on Joe Rogan's podcast.

Arkhaine_kupo 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

> There is a legitimate discussion of what can be mandated you do to your body.

But we have already protocols and frameworks on public health.

Also plenty of other medical choices are taken with way less input of experts (see abortion discussions for example)

Not sure, the midst of a global crisis, with almost universal scientific approval is the time to have a long discussion on bodily autonomy on countries like america where 50% of people cant read at a 6th grade level.

alexlesuper an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably disinformation.