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felooboolooomba 3 hours ago

> .. obtaining source code via Google Drive ...

Let this sink in. Google, this small tech company (correct me if I'm wrong), is peddling source code via tarballs on google drive.

Something the head of the Android ecosystem, Sameer Samat could be proud of on his CV: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sameersamat

bluedino 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Prior to moving it to Google Drive, they started squashing the history into a single commit prior to pushing release tags. The tarballs provided via Google Drive have exactly the same source code. However, they went out of the way to make it more inconvenient in several ways.

Ugh.

Also I can't believe it's been 10 years since they shut down Google Code.

exceptione 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a little bit of clumsiness in the way Google communicates with the public. What they really mean to say is: we need to be broken up.

smallmancontrov an hour ago | parent [-]

I am in awe at the amount of capital Google's market dominance affords them and the consistency with which they squander that capital.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

This is not the way.

zer00eyz 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Well.

Lest you forget that modern computing exists because ATT built unix and then threw it out to the public, at speed, as they drove away from it as fast as possible. (Something about being an actual monopoly...).

There is at least one thing, on that list that I can almost assure you will be coming back (in concept and spirt) in the next 5 years. Likely open source, because google tossed it...

Meanwhile it has other very public and open winners: Golang, Kubernetes being two stellar examples of them not dropping something like a hot potato.

J-Kuhn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, its the "well, legally, we have to provide the source code, but we make it as painful and slow for you as we can without it becoming a blatant violation of the GPL."

joelthelion 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm pretty sure there is a lot of code in Android that belongs to Google and is not part of an upstream GPL project. They would be completely entitled to stop sharing it.

RobotToaster 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not quite, they could make you request it by post and send it on a stack of floppies.

steve_taylor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds like a cheap way to get my hands on some floppies.

throwaway456754 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

They don't have to be cheap.

afiori 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you are right a stack of printed qr codes is better

heftig 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, that's too easily machine-read. Print it in a fancy calligraphy font or one with ambiguous characters.

sunaookami 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reminds me of Lavabit where the US wanted the encryption keys and they printed them out in a 4 point font :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit#Legacy

newswasboring 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's too convenient, cameras can read many qr codes at a time. Encode the binary on some punch cards.

eptcyka an hour ago | parent [-]

Pretty sure cameras can be used to read punchcards too.

alex_suzuki 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

This sounds like a fun project. Somebody already did it, apparently: https://hackaday.com/2012/07/30/reading-punch-cards-with-an-...

bluedino 3 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Greenbar printouts.

teekert an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At this point, without Git commit history (assuming it is a bare code dump), is it still even possible to guarantee it is what Google says it is?

gruez 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

You can compare against old dumps.

callc 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sometimes I wonder if randos peek in and see this terminology and think we’re all nut cases

FartyMcFarter an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Google, this small tech company (correct me if I'm wrong), is peddling source code via tarballs on google drive.

What is the context for this? It's not clear from the linked social media post.

The Android kernel source code is in git: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/

Plus there's a lot of other Android source hosted on Google's git servers: https://android.googlesource.com/

gruez 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>The Android kernel source code is in git: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/

That's the mainline kernel. Actual devices use various LTS kernels, for instance the pixel 9a uses kernel 6.1[1], which was hasn't been updated in a year[2]

[1] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/tegu/

[2] https://android.googlesource.com/device/google/tegu-kernels/...

stonogo 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The repositories you have linked are not sufficient to build an Android distribution. In order to get the missing bits, you have to fill out a form: https://source.android.com/opensourcerequest and beg them, and if they decide you are worthy, they will email you a link to a tarball, which is hosted on Google Drive.

mngnt 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> ...after making a request through Google Forms This is even more ridiculous to me.

rjzzleep an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

3 years, checks out. Probably buddy buddy with someone. Reminds me of that 3rd Google Pay they made that they had to sack because it was so dumb.

StrLght 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

[flagged]

felooboolooomba 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is absolutely not a witch-hunt. People in that position wield enormous power and take their paycheck and responsibility that comes with it. Linking to his professional linked in relation to his responsibility is nothing but professional.

blablablerg 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not, his linkedin profile is public and easily findable. This is not doxxing.

phatfish 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you are worried about internet witch-hunts I'd stay away from the "creators" and content that Google platforms and makes money from on Youtube.

VulgarExigency 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

anything but holding people accountable for their anti-consumer actions

bflesch 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's quite painful to resolve cognitive dissonance, so I understand the downvotes for your comment.

People are clever enough to reach high level corporate roles, but at the same time they're are too weak to emotionally process the consequences of their "work" on their human cash cows of below-average intelligence.

However with these kind of moral/ethical questions, it's really hard to draw the line.

Is working at Google and thereby facilitating the scamming of my grandmother worse than being an ordinary pickpocket or an lobbyist for big oil?

StrLght 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, sounds like you have a rather weird definition of accountability. You do you.

brendoelfrendo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

He's the head of Android ecosystem; who else is accountable?

bflesch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think it's a stretch to call OP doing a "witch-hunt" here. That Android guy is a mini LinkedIn celebrity with 100k followers.

StrLght 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This doesn't excuse a message that literally reads like call to action.

bflesch 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm just thinking that someone who has 100k LinkedIn followers might be happy about any type of engagement, including nerdy rage bait.

owebmaster 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Public companies and their executives deserve the same treatment as the government and the politicians. It is completely fine to let them know that the people are upset with their decisions.

crest 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What would be wrong with a call to action addressed at someone likely in a position to stop this bullshit if he cared enough?

Hizonner 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You know what? Fuck that guy. And it's a public profile. LinkedIn is basically an advertising platform. If you are on it, you are putting yourself out there to the whole world, on purpose.