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Gigachad 3 hours ago

Because you need app support. Not even Microsoft could pull that off.

jorvi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You mean Microsoft proactively kept shooting devs in the kneecaps?

Leaving phones behind on old incompatible OS versions 2 times in 3 years and switching app frameworks 3 times in 4 years does not a good app developer experience make.

Piled on top of that, Google became actively hostile to 3rd party developers building support for YouTube (and Gmail and Gmaps, but those had workarounds / alternatives).

Yokolos 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What a colossal disaster. I was a huge Windows Phone fan, so their yearly missteps were quite painful to watch. I was especially annoyed when my first gen WP wasn't going to get an upgrade to WP8. My HTC 7 Pro is still my favourite phone I've ever owned, but after that I finally gave up and switched to Android.

nextaccountic 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about running the whole Android infrastructure, but on top of a non-Android Linux distro? And this, on top of a Android kernel (otherwise you won't have the drivers yo uneed)

The advantage being, we can manage packages using a regular Linux distro

saidinesh5 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of "non Android Linux distributions" like sailfish os actually use a lot of Android infrastructure to keep working.

Drivers doesn't just mean the kernel. It's the user space binary blobs and services that need to talk to the kernel to enable the hardware.

Other than that there's waydroid, alien dalvik etc.. that run another Android instance in a container.

The thing is a lot of Android applications use safety net/other methods to make sure they only run on. "Approved"/stock hardware.

tfrancisl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is exactly where my head goes. There's nothing special about this hardware other than its small form factor. Sure, some desktop apps would likely want a different skin, but thats hardly limiting.

realusername 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can't because a lot of apps check that the phone is controlled by Google with Play Integrity.

Google thought about this, don't worry. They learned their lesson after CyanogenMod tried to compete by offering an alternative. Non-Google Android are now dead except in China.

arxari an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Well for me I use Lineage without even MicroG and everything I need works - yes even banking

imthatsteve 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

CyanogenMod became LineageOS and its still going strong, im typing this on an unofficial lineageOS build right now.

puzzlingcaptcha 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

App support, stable ABI, uniform UI/UX, hardware vendor cooperation...

tfrancisl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dont think app support is all that important. Most apps are garbage as they are ime, so rebuilding from scratch, or using existing software that runs fine on linux, would keep me happy.

tcfhgj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Microsoft could, but abandoned just as they gained traction in Europe

sunaookami an hour ago | parent [-]

I miss my Windows Phone...

inigyou 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doesn't windows run android apps natively now?

dzikimarian 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It doesn't. There was a plan, but Microsoft abandoned it.

AstralSerenity 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They did end up releasing Windows Subsystem for Android via the Windows Insider Program, which was enough for the OSS community to take it over after it was abandoned. It still exists and has worked quite well for my use case: https://github.com/MustardChef/WSABuilds

deaton an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Microsoft can barely pull off their flagship desktop operating system, so that doesn't say much.