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dullcrisp 2 hours ago

It could be. Or it could be 1x, or 0.2x. You don’t have enough information to make that judgment.

danggggg 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I was joking. The workflow doesn't seem particularly fast or engaging in my opinion. AI code generation doesn't seem worthwhile to me.

dullcrisp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well you got me. I’d agree about that workflow, but something more rapid like a few seconds generating code and then a couple minutes reading it can be more engaging to me than writing it out yourself. I think it’s near time we all stop having such strong opinions about the matter either way personally.

danggggg 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> I think it’s near time we all stop having such strong opinions about the matter either way personally.

I don't think this is reasonable given how abusive the pro-AI rhetoric has been for years now.

dullcrisp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m entitled to my opinion about your opinion just like you’re entitled to your opinion about my opinion about your opinion.

danggggg 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you don't accept my opinion as your own you're going to lose your job and become a member of a permanent underclass.

dullcrisp 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

You make it sound like it’s a motivated opinion.

slopinthebag 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s worthwhile to me under specific conditions, mainly that the codebase has existing patterns and abstractions that the LLM utilizes, and they’re actually good. It’s not a common case but I’m lucky that one of the codebases I’m in is one I built myself mostly by hand, and LLMs are really effective in it at the moment. My main concern is making sure the generated code maintains the high standard, but it’s definitely saving me time.

I’ve kind of changed my mind on prompting, it’s definitely a skill. It’s a skill based on your own skills in the domain. I’m at the point where I can get the LLM to generate the same code (roughly speaking) that I would have written. So it’s basically generating the same thing I would write, just faster. So it’s like reading your own code. Using it as a crutch to do things you aren’t capable of is where people run into trouble. That’s where the massive amounts of code review come into play. For me, I’m only ever reviewing 100-300 loc changes at a time. Often less. Because I know what I’m doing and can break things down into manageable diffs.

Can’t see myself going back, but also can’t see myself doing it without the experience I have without LLMs. Which is a bit of an issue for new developers. Not sure what the solution is for that.

dullcrisp 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That plus if you’ve ever stared at your code and then searched StackOverflow to see if you could find a better way of doing it, it’s like having that running continuously.