The only way to have agi or any ai is to throw away all ethics then. So why are ai companies shredding books instead of using Anna's archive? Depending on your stance, one is more ethical than the other, but not both. And not neither of them.

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selcuka 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> why are ai companies shredding books instead of using Anna's archive?

I'm pretty sure they've already consumed everything on Anna's Archive, The Pirate Bay etc., and they are now buying books to fill the gaps and to legally launder the corpus they already had. It has little to do with ethics (one could also question the ethics of buying rare, second-hand books and then destroying them).

	▲	darthoctopus an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> one could also question the ethics of buying rare, second-hand books and then destroying them I believe that is exactly what the parent post is doing

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beambot 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> So why are ai companies shredding books

Because a cartoon mouse's parent company used regulatory capture to extend copyright for decades.

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root_axis 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm sure they're using whatever they can get their hands on, including Anna's archive. The business process of buying books to scan offers the opportunity to ingest media that hasn't yet been digitized, but also provides plausible legal deniability against copyright holders bringing litigation.

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noosphr 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anna's archive is missing books and papers.

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alightsoul 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

I want to believe most of what they're missing is material held in national and public university libraries and is material specific to the country the books or papers come from. Most of their collections are not digitized and that's what I keep seeing, and then some books that are profession-specific.

They're basically rebuilding Google books, and keeping it private. That's privatizing all of humanity's knowledge.

	▲	dgently7 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		there is an amazing subplot in the book "service model" that describes a set of robot librarians doing exactly this kind of thing, plus sorting every bit.

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andrewflnr 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Abandoning ethics doesn't mean you actively seek out unethical acts, it just means you only care about pragmatics. Limiting how overtly you break the law, copyright law in this case, is often pragmatic regardless of ethics.