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bigcat12345678 an hour ago

Since when US requires "jurisdiction" for it's actions?

busterarm 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nice whataboutism.

All UN member states are de facto part of the ICJ. If you have a valid claim against a nation, the proper place to pursue that is the ICJ.

Hate what the US and Israel are doing or not, what the ICC is doing here is entirely political posturing and theater.

estearum 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Think the ICC is engaged in political posturing and theater all you want, sanctions are not an appropriate tool

busterarm 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

They aren't? The US government has authority over its borders and assets within them. This is an action that is perfectly legal and enabled by acts of Congress. It actually has real teeth.

I don't necessarily agree with it either but what do you expect to happen in response to the ICC's action.

The ICC is trying to set a precedent that the US views as against its interests.

Go ahead and poke the bear.

etc-hosts 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Since the US for now controls the non BRICS financial system, any individual we Sanction loses all access to any money they have stored with entities that use computers.

estearum 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The question isn't whether the US government has power to sanction people, it's whether the Executive has the authority to use that power for this purpose against these entities.

"The bear" (rah rah, bro) is governed by laws. These sanctions are allegedly authorized under e.g. IEEPA and the National Emergencies Act. What's the emergency? Assume that's valid, then what powers are made available to the President in response to that emergency?

It's absolutely not clear at all that this action is "perfectly legal and enabled by acts of Congress."

This admin's last broad interpretation of IEEPA-originating powers was already struck down by SCOTUS.

SpicyLemonZest 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

This admin's last broad interpretation involved doing things that had never before been done under IEEPA. Prohibiting Americans from doing business with designated people based on executive fiat has been an extremely common use of IEEPA for decades, and multiple such long-standing emergencies have nothing to do with a concrete threat to the United States. The status quo is very dumb, don't get me wrong, but I don't think there's a lack of clarity about what it is.