If even on Hacker News a topic like this can't be objectively discussed, what hope do we really have? What is the solution? Even in a place like this, the comments are full of extremist ideology, bickering, people arguing from feelings, people just repeating echo chambers mantras, and a significant portion of the comments are probably from inauthentic/propaganda accounts. We're incapable of just using a place like this to objectively, dispassionately, discus the facts/data and properly debate the various analyses of those facts.

I really feel like we need some sort of new revolution in terms of online communication, how it's done. How people share information and communicate. I just don't see how the current systems can continue existing without leading to societal disaster.

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Nicook 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>even on hacker news.

come on now, HN is just a step above reddit. some of these discussions are pretty solid.

	▲	bryan0 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> HN is just a step above reddit. It didn't used to be this way. The line between HN and reddit is converging and now sometimes it's difficult to tell them apart.

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pessimizer 2 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

When you label people who disagree with you ideological extremists, you're part of the problem. They're properly labeled "people who believe things that I don't believe" and they deserve a counterargument rather than a curt dismissal or demand for silencing. If you have the courage of your own beliefs, it should be trivial to offer one.

It doesn't even matter if it's AI slop. If AI slop asks a question you can't answer, it's good AI slop.