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kennywinker an hour ago

Eating meat fills my belly. Setting my AC to 68 keeps me cool. A data center costs my community money, damages the environment directly and indirectly, and further enriches a few already rich people.

Can you spot the difference?

mr_00ff00 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

People say this and then use AI for literally everything they do.

cryzinger 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In my experience, there's not a ton of overlap between people who say this and people who use AI for everything they do... but most people who say this do use social media, cloud storage, on-demand video streaming, and plenty of other things that rely on data centers :)

Not for nothing that YouTube alone is responsible for a double-digit amount of all internet traffic.

xboxnolifes 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this is just projection.

dasil003 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Consider that there may be large populations doing both, but the overlap might be less than the internet jockey concludes via finger-in-the-wind hypocrisy check.

jmmcd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AC at 68F is obnoxious and wasteful. At least data centres enable me to communicate with distant colleagues, watch enriching movies, and use very strong AI tools to accelerate my research.

AnthonyMouse 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> AC at 68F is obnoxious and wasteful.

It's actually significantly more environmentally friendly than heating to above 68F in the winter in most cases, since most AC is done with heat pumps but most heating is oil/gas (100% fossil fuel consumption) or resistive electric heaters (dramatically less efficient than heat pumps). On top of that AC use aligns strongly with solar generation output while heating load does the opposite, which means that even when heating is done with electricity it comes disproportionately from gas turbines at natural gas peaker plants.

atmavatar 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Data centers also enable the NSA to store the metadata and contents of every phone call you make and police to (without a warrant) to track anyone who's walked in front of your doorbell or many street corners in your city. They also store all the location data your phone collects for Google or Apple, nearly your entire internet history collected surreptitiously because many sites automatically use your GMail or Facebook logins, and your entire purchase history collected via Visa or MasterCard.

And even better: all of that data is aggregated together and stored in its entirety several times over across multiple data centers because everyone shares your data with everyone else, such that if any single of more than a dozen data centers is ever compromised, it all gets leaked to whomever compromised it.

himata4113 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It directly and indirectly increases your quality of life and it is something you use every single day.