Looking like this will be the last month with Anthropic. Between the outages and just overall crap utility of Opus/Fable lately...

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20k 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They'll all be getting around to this sooner or later, its just too expensive

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wongarsu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I get incredible utility out of $200 per month

It's hard to put a number on it, but even accounting for all the time in meetings, talking with stakeholders and developers etc I'm over 10% more productive overall. I earn substantially more than $2000/month, the ROI is there

It's only expensive compared to the currently very strong offering from OpenAI. Or other models - my hobby projects are all on DeepSeek

	▲	moregrist an hour ago \| parent [-]
		What you’re saying is that they should be charging $2000 or more per month then. Perhaps that’s true, but it’s a price tag that’s a lot harder to swallow for many orgs than $200/mo, and would require some hard justification for how your increased productivity contributes to the business bottom line. I’ll agree that you can probably do that with hard numbers. I am skeptical that most $200/mo users could.

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oh_no 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yes and no, anthropic and openai are losing money on people who max out their sub, but openai has a lot more room to play with with much cheaper models to serve (by all signs we have from actual api/task pricing)

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akulbe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I posted on LinkedIn that I thought the future of AI will be local. I'm surprised I didn't get tarred and feathered, but it's been crickets.

I do believe it though. While the subsidies of the frontier providers are nice, they can't continue forever.

	▲	ricardobayes an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I believe it's been crickets because open-source/DIY solutions almost never become mainstream. Devs tend to think everyone wants a self-service to save a few bucks. Most ordinary people don't care that much about privacy and if there is a solution that just works well enough to cover their needs and costs just fair enough to be affordable, they are going to use that. I feel like this is why fast food is such a thing. There are far better food options out there that either require a little bit more effort or money. Your post on Linkedin is akin to someone claiming in 1960's America that home-cooked burgers are the future, despite McDonalds gaining ground. It is also why crypto wallets and the like never took off, people don't want to give up the convenience of a bank account, understandably.
	▲	alightsoul an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That means people don't believe it. Same thing when people used to say personal computers would replace mainframes.

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apsurd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

also codex + sol is really good and quite fast.

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ipsod 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I switched when 4.7 dropped, after over a year on the service. It was an immediate improvement - not even 1 hour before Codex was giving me better results with less effort.

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extr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately Sol does not compare to Fable at all.

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cute_boi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And Fable doesn't compare to Sol at all. Fable will block on many request in name of cybersecurity, sol never does that.

	▲	jaggederest an hour ago \| parent [-]
		They're absolutely best in a chocolate-in-my-peanutbutter situation - I use them to adversarially review each other's changes and ping pong the branch back and forth - A makes changes, B reviews, B makes changes, A reviews. Together they're much smarter than either individually - anthropic models tend towards more creativity, openai models can get bogged down in the nitty gritty.

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adamrezich 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Stick with xhigh rather than turbo for most tasks though, now that the Age of Abundant Resets seems to be well and truly over for good (and 5h limits are supposedly returning soon).

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pram an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I haven’t had any issues with Fable or Opus code-wise, but the way it has started writing recently has almost become incomprehensible.

At the end of a long session it will start saying stuff like “There are smoke tests on the foundation-gates that are left for the cutting seam checks on these domains, which is genuinely your decision”

Never before the past couple months have I ever not been able to understand wtf it’s even saying lol

	▲	no_no_no_yes an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I'm seeing a lot of that too. I was working on a project recently that required the attribution of a data source, and it added to the "licenses" page of the project something like "We use <blah> and per their terms we owe an acknowledgement of attribution to you, the user." So in addition to the stuff it says in a session there's gobbledy gook that it prints out in copy as well.

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danudey 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe with lower weekly quotas the load will be lower and we'll have fewer outages? A guy can dream.