$800 is not much more expensive than the Fairphone. Also, the next generation of Pinephones (Pinephone Pro) has been discontinued, because Pine64 don't want to support any firmware/driver development and rely on volunteers too much.

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Fnoord 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It is $800 but the hardware is nowhere near equal, since Fairphone are usibg newer standards (for midrange 2026 smartphones).

You'd also have issues running backwards compatible applications. You won't have such issue on /e/, SFOS, or GrapheneOS. Of these, /e/ works on Fairphone. SFOS recently got released for latest Jolla smartphone, and GrapheneOS continues being a good option for Google Pixel and perhaps Motorola in near future.

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fsflover 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, the hardware is significantly weaker, but instead it has other benefits. It's just a different tradeoff for different preferences. It also runs a desktop OS and no proprietary drivers unlike anything else on the market. So it will get lifetime updates and can be used as, e.g., a server when you buy something new.

> issues running backwards compatible applications

Which issues? Waydroid should work.

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BearOso 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

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handedness an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> no proprietary drivers unlike anything else on the market

You continue to be misleading with your wording.

https://docs.puri.sm/Hardware/Librem_5/Maintenance/Modem.htm...

You dishonestly promote an $800 product in comment after comment.

Hiding your obvious shilling behind the moral cloak of "activism" is pathetic. It's worse than pathetic, as it runs the risk of harming genuine activism.

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fsflover an hour ago | parent | next [-]

What are you trying to tell with you link? You did not provide any arguments or explanation. Yes, it has a modem with update-able firmware, so what? It's a separate card with its own firmware that you can remove or replace. The firmware sits on the modem, not in the OS and does not affect it.

PureOS is endorsed by the FSF and contains no proprietary software.

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handedness 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

They really probably aren't going to get lifetime updates to their modem's closed-source firmware. They can't even get timely updates to their modem's closed-source firmware.

It's great that the OS is open source, it really is. But all bits going out over the cellular radio are handled by proprietary firmware, same as every other phone out there.

Educate me: Is there a way to know when the modem's firmware needs updating? When was the last update shipped?

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		I never claimed the lifetime updates for the modem, did I? > Educate me: Is there a way to know when the modem's firmware needs updating? When was the last update shipped? If you have any problems with calls, you probably need an update. Otherwise you probably don't. It's that easy.

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