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preg_match 7 hours ago

Not a single soul on earth thinks single payer healthcare is free. 8 billion people, not one of them thinks it.

They mean “free to the consumer at time of service”, which it is. Nobody is lying, everyone agrees, it’s just you who doesn’t understand.

loeg 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Not a single soul on earth thinks single payer healthcare is free. 8 billion people, not one of them thinks it.

You are incredibly optimistic about a large swath of the population's understanding, unfortunately.

> Nobody is lying

There are plenty of people in this discussion making statements of fact that are false. Call it whatever you want.

preg_match an hour ago | parent [-]

No, they’re not false, you’re just misunderstanding. When people say “free” healthcare they do not literally mean all healthcare is zero dollars. They don’t mean nurses earn a wage of 0 dollars an hour.

No, they mean free at time of service, which they are.

Don’t believe me? Great, then ask them, without doing word gymnastics to try to trick them.

Should medical equipment cost 0 dollars to produce? Should doctors not earn any salary or wage? They will say no, 100% of the time.

SpicyLemonZest 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The vast majority of those 8 billion people do not have single payer healthcare. A lot of Americans get confused on this, because we're the only country in the Anglosphere that doesn't do single payer, but it's far from universal globally.

preg_match an hour ago | parent [-]

I didn’t say they did. I said they understand that free healthcare is not literally free, but comes from taxes. Do not underestimate them, they understand very basic things.