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| ▲ | Runways 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can install Linux on this device. If it had proper dock support, this would be 'the' phone I've been looking for. There is a not insignificant number of users in the forum that are skipping this phone for that reason. It would have been my first. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fp6-discussion-about-usb-2-and... | | |
| ▲ | Grombobulous 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There are only 264 replies in that forum total, and not every reply is a unique individual. I would say that it’s easy to make an argument that this is quite an insignificant number of users even for a niche smartphone manufacturer. I can’t imagine that a lot of people actually dock their phone to use as a desktop. I would be surprised if the percent of smartphone users who do that eclipsed 0.5%. My understanding in the iPhone world is that the most common use case for fast USB-C connectivity tends to be people doing content creation work where they’re generating a lot of high fidelity camera footage rapidly and offloading it into external storage and other professional solutions. | | |
| ▲ | chaosharmonic 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > My understanding in the iPhone world is that the most common use case for fast USB-C connectivity tends to be people doing content creation work where they’re generating a lot of high fidelity camera footage rapidly and offloading it into external storage and other professional solutions. I mean, Apple also enforces a difference in what is an iPhone vs an iPad vs a Mac, at both the OS and the application levels, regardless of what little distinction the internals have. Even without bringing mainline Linux into it, Android is generally looser about that. > I can’t imagine that a lot of people actually dock their phone to use as a desktop. It doesn't have to be all the time; there are lots of use cases where big displays are occasional. Pocket gaming, for instance. | | | |
| ▲ | Runways 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | See, that's all fine and dandy, but I would not recommend this phone to normal people anyway - especially with their record of introducing random bugs. Their whole strategy is going after niche buyers. Most people just want a phone and go through their carrier or Apple. I have a friend who was looking into the phone and he was about to purchase it before I mentioned the port, but yes we are just geeks. | | |
| ▲ | Grombobulous 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think their early adopters being niche tech nerds is a very different concept than who they are targeting through their marketing. Scroll down the marketing page and take note of which subjects take up the largest chunk of the page space: https://us.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-plus The first section talks about a long warranty and sustainability. It talks about long battery life and the replaceable battery. The next section, which is rather large, talks about the camera benefits. This is a huge section and is a very mainstream selling point. Next is AI and Gemini, a small section. Next is Moments, their phone mindfulness suite aimed at people battling smartphone attention/addiction issues, a very common concern among users. Finally, the last section talks about sustainability as well as tips on switching and “what’s in the box.” So really, zero of the marketing is aimed at niche buyers. They’re looking to sell to people who want a very normal phone experience but want something long-lasting, intentional, and sustainable, and they still need it primarily as a device to capture photos and memories as well as all the normal daily life use you’d expect. There is zero mention of niche/nerdy features in the marketing. Tinkering and software customization is never mentioned. Professional/enthusiast use cases are never mentioned. There’s nothing talking about terminal emulation or alternative operating systems or anything of that sort. |
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| ▲ | zyberzero 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ah, that makes sense, thanks! I tried that way back when Windows phone was a thing (using my phone as a desktop), I even had a small dock for my Lumia 925. It worked well enough for presentations and RDPing into my workstation. | |
| ▲ | teekert 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I for one would have loved to be able to plug a screen into the phone for a somewhat better experience + peripherals. With the 12 GB RAM though I hope to be able to runs minimal VMs and then rustdesk/VNC into those for work on the phone? It's not the same though... I don't need USB for speed, it's all via the network anyway, even pics and videos are in Immich by the time I've found my cable. |
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| ▲ | craftkiller 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DisplayPort Alt-Mode is important for when you smash your phone but you _need_ to access data that is on it. Maybe its your photos, text messages, or access to a banking app. Without DP Alt-Mode you're going to be waiting for a screen replacement to ship, with DP Alt-Mode you're just plugging your phone into your dock like a laptop. Personally I would have seriously considered this phone if it wasn't for the lack of DP Alt-Mode. It would be a tiny portable Linux computer with an unlimited internet connection available anywhere. It would be the perfect thin-client. My cellular plan limits my tethered bandwidth so using the phone as my computer rather than as my computer's modem has real benefits. | | |
| ▲ | teekert 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I saved al my sons data from this Samsung S10 using their Dex thing after his screen broke. Was really nice. FP6+ would have been a no brainer for me if it had such a feature (would need to work on /e/ though) for some light dev work. Still going to buy one though (just messed up my iPhone 12 mini cams and faceID with some of Malaysia's high humidity.) |
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| ▲ | microtonal 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When we are travelling, we often hook up our phones to a hotel/apartment TV with a DP-Alt to HDMI adapter to use our own streaming services/apps. A phone without DP-Alt would be a no-go. | |
| ▲ | Telaneo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Syncing music is my main use case where USB 2 is annoying. Beyond that, pulling photos of the phone, but I rarely do that to an extent that USB 2 speeds become a problem. | | |
| ▲ | tcfhgj 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | that said, Fairphones habe a micro SD card slot which you can use for such things | | |
| ▲ | Telaneo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, and I'd prefer to not have to take it out all the time. Especially since taking out the SD card means also taking out the SIM card. | | |
| ▲ | Grombobulous 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Is wireless connectivity a barrier there? My home WiFi goes about twice as fast as USB 2.0. My photos (I use Ente, not Google or Apple) sync in the background on WiFi, primarily while I sleep. It’s my understanding that Immich works the same way. For music syncing I’d probably set up Syncthing-Fork and then never manually transfer again. When I transfer ROMs to my Android gaming handheld I just use my local NAS and connect with CX File Manager. My handheld has USB 3.0 but I don’t find that plugging in a cable is particularly convenient, especially since the NAS box is in my closet. My iPhone 17 Pro Max has very fast USB-C but I’ve never used it for anything besides charging. I’m sure professional content creation folks know of a workflow where fast USB is helpful but for my smartphone user I can’t think of a reason to use it. | | |
| ▲ | Telaneo 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The app I use to sync, Musicbee, doesn't work on Linux, so I have to use Wine, which for stupid reasons prevents me from syncing wirelessly. Just syncing the files isn't the problem. Syncing the metadata (number of times a song has been played, favourites) is the problem, and just dragging-and-dropping the the files onto my phone doesn't solve for this. If I could do it wirelessly, I would, but I've never found it to be reliable in the first place the few times I've used it before (times may have changed). |
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| ▲ | microtonal 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Having to remove your SIM card (since it uses the same tray) and potentially switch off your phone to transfer files at a decent speed is meh. |
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| ▲ | monegator 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Honestly, if it was a linux phone... I currently travel between two office locations, with identical setup (screen, dock, mouse and keyboard, ...) so i just close the laptop lid and plug in the office's type C cable coming from the screen. Sometimes i bring along my laptop so i keep my work laptop where it's at and RDP into it from the other location (laptop just plugs into the type C cable). Nothing really special, but it's really nice. Then, back when google enabled desktop mode on most pixels, i of course tried it. Neat, but it's just a shittier gnome desktop with very few desktop apps. If it was a full fledged windows phone with a KDE-Touch interface that rendered a full desktop when docked, oh boy wouldn't it be neat? Another thing to consider: For some goddamn reason i have a couple of samsung flaships that will refuse to talk to ADB if i use a 2.0 Cable. Has to be 3.0 or type C <-> Type C |
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