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onlyrealcuzzo 4 hours ago

This sure looks like a race to the bottom to me, and I love it.

If Sol isn't the best model, it is up there...

You don't cut the price of the best model for no reason...

dvt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> This sure looks like a race to the bottom

Always has been. My prediction is that both OpenAI and Claude will go bust unless they deliver a killer product. And unlike scrappy startups, they have a pretty serious deadline because creditors will come a-knockin'.

There's little to no functional difference between Kimi, Qwen, Sol, Opus, etc. All flagship models are within like 1-5% of each other and the real moat will be what's always been the hard part: making a good product.

matheusmoreira an hour ago | parent [-]

> All flagship models are within like 1-5% of each other

Don't know about that.

I'm using code review of my lone lisp project as a benchmark. It's a massive parallel code review where a coordinator cuts up the codebase into sections and dispatches agents to consider each part from different perspectives like quality, maintainability, consistency, correctness, rigor, etc.

Ran a complete Fable/max code review. Took over a month on a subscription. Now I've switched to OpenAI and am repeating the exact same review with Sol/max.

It's still not done yet but preliminary findings suggest Sol can only reproduce 70-90% of Fable's findings. So I think these models aren't as close as we've been led to believe.

huflungdung 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

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twelvechairs an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you believe https://artificialanalysis.ai/

This is basically undercutting KimiK3 and Grok 4.6 where previously utilised gad soke advantages but was a step more expensive

livinglist an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The lower the merrier.

oblio 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Competition is good for users.

livinglist 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sorry I meant to say lower, price that is, corrected.

andai 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You do it if you can afford to do it and your competitor can't.

psadri 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who are OpenRouter’s competitors?

aurareturn 2 hours ago | parent [-]

OpenRouter doesn't decide on the pricing.

resonious an hour ago | parent [-]

They do decide on the 5% markup. But as far as I can tell, all other routers just match 5%. Not sure what they're competing on.

aurareturn an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes but Sol dropping in price by 50% is not OpenRouter deciding. It's OpenAI.

mcintyre1994 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don’t think that’s true. OpenAI docs don’t have this price change. I assume they’d be the source for this post if it was true. The banner on OpenRouter for me says Gemini 3.7 discounted for a limited time, but if I click through that I get to this page: https://openrouter.ai/models?discount=true

That shows a bunch of models, including Sol, with a discount. None of them say how long it’s for, but I’d assume in all their cases it’s for a limited time as the banner said, and only on OpenRouter.

aurareturn 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

OpenRouter margins are not 50%.

fileeditview 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That kind of is a reason.