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IshKebab 6 hours ago

A billion tokens per day?? Plausible estimates put the energy use at about 0.001 Wh/token, which means you're using 1000 kWh/day in electricity, just to generate slop. That's about the same as 50-100 houses. 300kg of CO2 per day - roughly the same as flying from London to New York every three days.

I think on average AI energy usage is not as big a deal as everyone is panicking about, but your usage is truly absurd and I don't know how you can live with that. It's immoral.

Gangway0829 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can't speak for that guy, but I'm a physicist and work in clean energy... So it's not too hard! That said, I usually am closer to 10M on days I do heavy coding, so not nearly that bad.

paxys 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Token caching is a thing

throwup238 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You really think OpenAI is selling $1500/mo of electricity (at $0.05/kwh) for $200/mo?

I’m guessing that Wh/token estimate is several orders of magnitude too high.

Noaidi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They certainly could be using that much electricity at a loss based on their profitability, which doesn’t exist.

Leaked financial documents from 2025 show the company reported an operating loss of approximately $20.9 billion against $13.1 billion in revenue.

blovescoffee 4 hours ago | parent [-]

As a company... but that includes things like research costs, model training etc. to determine if they're selling electricity at a loss you should look at inference costs bc that's the "thing" they're selling

_zoltan_ 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"slop"? come on. we're not in 2020 anymore, Dorothy.

pertymcpert 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Most tokens are cached.

lannisterstark 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1. You do not know what they're using it for. 2. Get off your high horse please. 3. Immoral my ass.

nozzlegear 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Immoral my ass.

Is any amount of tokenmaxxing moral?

stavros 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

Is any form of energy usage moral?