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LelouBil 19 hours ago

I really hope more people would use Tangled (https://tangled.org/)

You get:

   - Self hosting your git hosting (if you want)

   - Self hosting your issues/PRs (if you want)

   - Self hosting your CI (if you want)

   - Github-like social features (I have one account, I can follow, star, add issues and PRs to any repo on tangled)

It's built on ATProto, so even if the company disappears, all of the integration and features will still work for anyone that wants to run their own AppView (that is open-source), an AppView is basically the UI/Network-wide Data Aggregator for ATProto apps
verdverm 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Tangled is forcing some of their particular technologies (nix/rust) on users for those pieces and that is a hard sell. I don't use those techs, so I'm not interested to use a platform that I need to learn them to use.

fwiw, the main site also seems to be down right now, infinite spinner. Docs and blog are loading though

icy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Tangled is forcing some of their particular technologies (nix/rust) on users for those pieces and that is a hard sell. I don't use those techs, so I'm not interested to use a platform that I need to learn them to use.

Tangled CEO here. How are we pushing Rust exactly? :D Nix, yes but you don't really need to touch it at all with our Alpine-based CI images.

We have been under heavy load the past day or so, we're working round the clock to scale!

verdverm an hour ago | parent [-]

> We have been under heavy load the past day or so, we're working round the clock to scale!

GitHub is saying the same thing

re: pushing, when I looked many months ago, it looked very much like the rust/nix/jj club, who are on average very opinionated about "good" tech choices and try to shoehorn others into using them. It's a culture I'm not interested in being around

LelouBil an hour ago | parent [-]

The difference with GitHub is you can also use it if the main instance is down if you self host. (And again self hosting still gets you the interconnection benefits just like if everyone was on tangled.org)

verdverm 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

you can also buy GitHub Enterprise onprem and get a managed, self-hosted experience, thereby avoiding the public GitHub downtime

downtime and self-hosting is not a reason most people are convinced to move forges, it takes a lot to get someone there

LelouBil 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What does "forcing" mean here ?

If you want to build an alternative Knot implementation (git Hosting) you can use anything as long as the API is compatible ?

Same for all of the parts of Tangled really

Also, even if it's down, unlike GitHub you can self host your own AppView so it's never down for you

verdverm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> you can self host your own AppView so it's never down for you

Self hosted servers go down too and why people have picked hosted solutions like GitHub, Bitbucket, and GitLab

icy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Great! Then we've got a hosted solution at tangled.org. :)

verdverm an hour ago | parent [-]

no thanks, not interested ;]

atproto is a red flag for me now, toxic leaders at bluesky, who effectively control the protocol, it's not really open for others to have a say in what it looks like

you also don't have private repos and you will need to have centralized app view permission addons to have parity with user expectations, given the weak permissioned data proposal bluesky chose (their own proposal that works for what they need)