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Fergusonb 9 hours ago

Luna saw a huge jump after the price cut and is one of the more competitive models at the new price on openrouter.

Maybe they want to see how much market they can grab with Sol?

This might help but there are already cheaper models with Sol's intelligence more or less, the most notable being Grok 4.6 at $6/m which makes it a tougher sell

xmonkee 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's really only between Anthropic and OpenAI for many of my use cases, since I have a Zero Data Retention agreement with both. I'm not trusting random inference providers and especially not Elmo with sensitive data.

speedstyle 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

or Tinfoil [0]? They serve open models with container integrity attested by Nvidia/AMD enclaves. Every cloud provider offers this of course, but not usually in a way that can be shared between distrusting users for economical inference. It still relies on the open-source containers being secure, and there's probably hardware sidechannels and stuff, but personally (ie privacy not liability) I trust it more than a contract

[0] https://tinfoil.sh

Qwuke 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I loaded credits into Tinfoil the other day and have had zero issues, thanks to smart folks around here and the security space recommending it.

It's now my open weight inference provider of choice, since on top of the privacy/security characteristics it's also reasonably cheap.

c0rruptbytes 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

plenty of companies offer ZDR and are just as random as OpenAI and Anthropic in their age

xmonkee 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Would love a few names. Many of them fail to provide good uptime for large scale jobs or don’t have batch apis at all in my research.

HDBaseT 3 hours ago | parent [-]

DigitalOcean does inference, has good uptime and offers ZDR. They are not an AI first/inference first company. They have been serving cloud products for almost 2 decades.

Batch API is a bit harder, not many models/providers support Batch. It primarily is only the Gemini/ChatGPT/Claude models that do. DigitalOcean does support a 50% discount on Batch API via them directly, not listed on OpenRouter.

[1] https://docs.digitalocean.com/products/inference/how-to/use-...

dataplumb3r 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You do not have a ZDR with Anthropic.

For Mythos and even Fable they require prompt retention on their end.

edit: or more precisely if you want to access Mythos/Fable ZDR does not apply, and depending on config the exclusion can affect other models.

joshheitzman 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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101011 5 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a huge jump between OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and every other major player distilling the internet into LLMs and deliberately breaking a mutually signed contract between them and another business.

As for ZDR and court-orders, what would you rather happen there? Violate the law or comply with holding the data? I would bet that any ZDR agreement has this court-ordered risk mutually understood and agreed upon.

OutOfHere 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since when does Grok 4.6 have Sol 5.6's intelligence? I don't believe it.

qingcharles 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I use Grok 4.6 every day; it's good, but it's not Opus 5 or Sol 5.6. The gap is closing, though.

maxdo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do have free sol and cursor ultra for 200 I prefer grok over sol, they are equally capable but grok is faster

dimgl 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not?

chaos_emergent 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Because it’s good on benchmarks but not on real usage?

dimgl 7 hours ago | parent [-]

But OP said they've never used it. How would they know?

redox99 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn't.

mohamedkoubaa 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder if xAI is A/B testing routing some difficult grok 4.6 queries to Sol to seed some true believers.

jLaForest 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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bko 8 hours ago | parent [-]

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