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ndriscoll 21 hours ago

If those 80k people are employed to harm the world then it's good that they stop working. Like if we had many people employed in the business of theft rings or spraying CFCs into the air for the entertainment value, it'd obviously be much better for everyone else for them to be unemployed (or imprisoned or exiled) instead.

Likewise it's a little hard to be sympathetic toward the idea that our elders should even be allowed to retire comfortably if they got there by preying on the next generations that they were supposed to be building the world for. It's hard to overstate the betrayal the younger generations are facing now when society allows things like public schools partnering with gambling companies to advertise to students instead of building students' character like they're supposed to. In a moral society that would be the scandal of the century.

phyzix5761 4 hours ago | parent [-]

People are morally complex than that. Lots of people have no idea what they're invested in and many people work for companies like Meta and Amazon because they have no other work options.

ndriscoll 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

All the same, if one generation completely fails to uphold their side of the generational contract, whether through malice or indifference, why would the following ones hold up their side? Their failure to build a world that the next generations can live and raise their own families in means they did not earn their rest. If dismantling things that are actively, today, still harming people as a means to fund those retirements means they can't have that comfort, well okay then. They should've spent their resources building renewable energy generation or something instead. Something no one would want to tear down.

And FAANGs have an entire industry around getting into. They are not and never were the only option. They're notoriously the more difficult option, and during the last 15-20 years when this was all being built, software had some of the best career prospects. No one was forced to work there. They had to go out of their way to do it, and a lot of them specifically practiced for it. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Even if it were their only prospect, just like if a theft ring were someone's "only prospect" (it's also not), the correct answer is still to stop them.