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czgov a day ago

Your linked to article does not demonstrate what you claim it does. Your reasoning is wrong.

Medicaid expansion was a big part of the ACA.

mcphage a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Medicaid expansion was a big part of the ACA.

Well see, first you narrowly define the ACA to be "everything that didn't help"...

strictnein a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> "Findings suggest Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act saved about 27,400 lives between 2010-22, including among younger adults."

> "Their findings show that Medicaid expansions led to a 12% increase in enrollment and significantly reduced mortality—not just among older adults, but also younger ones, who accounted for nearly half of the life-years saved."

Huh? Did you read it? My point was that we could have just expanded Medicaid to achieve this.

czgov a day ago | parent | next [-]

It was the Medicaid expansion that has been cited as saving lives [0].

Medicaid expansion saved lives. That is true and not in dispute. Other lives were saved too. It wasn’t just poor people who obtained life saving care from ACA. In an alternate world where only Medicaid expansion occurred fewer lives would have been saved than were saved with ACA as it exists now.

blitzar a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> we could have just expanded Medicaid

Laws need votes.

If we are going to be unbound by reality then we could "just" put a medbed to cure all diseases, reverse ageing, and regrow limbs using quantum space-age tech in everyone's home.

strictnein a day ago | parent [-]

Too many people think snark is a substitute for insight.

The major GOP complaint about the entire thing was that it was the federal government forcing people to buy a product from companies. The Supreme Court ruled that it had that power.

blitzar a day ago | parent | next [-]

I missed the part of your insight where the GOP would have voted to expanded Medicaid to all.

If they are down for it, I can make a call and it would be a near unanimous vote.

czgov a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The ACA was the Republican plan until championed by Obama. The Republican goal was to say anything to denigrate their own plan. Romney later became the nominee for President and it was his plan that the ACA was largely based off of.

Republicans fought hard to discredit their own plan. They just wanted to move to the right of whatever it was that the black man championed.

dylan604 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Paid for how? The expansion of people not on medicaid to be paying in was supposed to be how expanding medicaid could be achieved.

strictnein a day ago | parent [-]

The Feds pay ~$150 billion a year and the states pay ~$20 billion a year for that Medicaid expansion. Those are increases on top of previous spending.

How are we paying for that? Debt.

On top of that, the ACA provides $100 billion a year to subsidize the healthcare markets.

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