| ▲ | Leonard_of_Q 15 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Does it or is this part of the push to keep people from hosting their own email services? I've self-hosted email for about 35 years now and see no reason to stop, it hardly ever needs maintenance and my mail tends to arrive even at hostile destinations (Micros..., Ggl, ...). Don't listen to those who fight against decentralisation, their agenda does not match yours. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | layer8 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Same here (well, 25-ish years). And while self-hosted email may be declining, it apparently still outnumbers any single email provider: https://labs.ripe.net/images/r_uuIdAmmdbhI1R9Der6slvvH5U=/10... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cube00 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Especially someone who stands to gain if they only need to get cozy with two email providers to deliver their spam. (Blog author) runs the email infrastructure measurement project at Live Direct Marketing Google offers "mail merge in Gmail to send personalized email campaigns, newsletters, and announcements to a wide audience." [1] Based on how much @gmail.com spam I used get within GMail I can only assume they treat mail from their internal accounts much more favourably then us dirty self hosters. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | yrro 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thank you for this perspective. I've been hosting my own email for about 25 years and have never had significant problems delivering to any of the large providers. A couple of months ago I migrated from one VPS host to another. I'd been putting this off for a long time, in part because of what I've read on HN about how difficult it is to self-host your mail. I finally took the plunge a couple of months ago, expecting to find the new provider's IP space unusable & having to relay via the old MTA/start relaying via a commercial MTA; but to my surprise, it's been completely smooth sailing! Maybe I've just been lucky with the nature of my setup: a small number of mailboxes and domains used for personal/small business use. Certainly if I was sending bulk mail or significant amounts of transactional mail then I'd use someone else's service. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | 1vuio0pswjnm7 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is this author scanning a list of "top domains" instead of full zone files or a random sample taken from a full collection of zone files It seems plausible that domainnames registered to individuals hosting their own email would _not_ likely be in the "top domains" Perhaps this headline could be more accurate if it was something like "Self hosted email among the top 1 million domains continues to steeply decline" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Arnt 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I follow the standards processes, and while I don't see a push to against self-hosting mail, I do see a push to stop storing cleartext passwords. Which is typically what your MUA uses to access those self-hosted mail servers. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Gud 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I've been self hosting myself now for a couple of years(after a brief, 20 year hiatus) and it was less difficult than I though it would be. Don't listen to the naysayers. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||