Mail self hosting is not an easy process to maintain.. If you do manage to get whitelisted you need to ensure you're on top of maintaining it, let alone some larger provider like Google just deciding they don't like you. I do empathise with wanting to self host, I just always found the cost of effort to do so really didn't offer enough benefits versus a good provider like proton for example. It sucks but maybe a fight that's too far gone to win.

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agentultra 16 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s not that bad, but it does require some effort. I self-host. I spend far more time using and enjoying email than I do maintaining the infrastructure.

However you do have to live with the occasional blacklist when you host on a VPS like I do. Some idiot in your IP range may get blacklisted for spam and then you get caught in it. It’s generally temporary.

And there are some corporate policies that will flat out reject emails from you which is fun.

I’ve probably spent less than 10 hours over the last 5 or 6 years on maintenance.

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sshprotocol 13 hours ago | parent [-]

> However you do have to live with the occasional blacklist when you host on a VPS like I do. Some idiot in your IP range may get blacklisted for spam and then you get caught in it. It’s generally temporary.

>And there are some corporate policies that will flat out reject emails from you which is fun.

This is what keeps me away from self-hosting it, though. As long as there's some possibility that my ability to deliver email could get nuked, all because someone else made a mistake, it's not worth it to me, especially since using / sending email is mandatory for doing most things. I guess I'm just not really willing to take that sort of risk

	▲	agentultra 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Blacklisting is a shady practice, unfortunately. They generally work on ranges and you don’t get much of a say. Most blacklist maintainers have a way for you to report a false positive. Responsiveness varies. Most maintainers will drop your range off the blacklist after a fixed period. Or you can pay to get off the list. Not all email services use blacklists anyway. Bit of a racket. You can mitigate against it by hosting on a dedicated IP. But I understand the risk. It’s really annoying when I send someone an email and they call me some days later wondering why I hadn’t sent them an email. Failures are often silent on the sending side. It’s not for everyone. There are risks.