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amelius a day ago

> Apple of AI

Except Apple does not really innovate. They just polish until it looks shiny.

Just look at the upcoming flip phones, but the examples are numerous.

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tyleo a day ago | parent | next [-]

This seems misinformed. Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple Silicon.

Not every product iteration changes the world, but they’ve pushed the industry forwards much more than most.

If they, “don’t really innovate,” who do you think does?

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amelius a day ago | parent [-]

> If they, “don’t really innovate,” who do you think does?

Anthropic.

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tiagod a day ago | parent [-]

I believe GP was asking who innovates in Apple's space.

And applying your very argument, isn't Anthropic just polishing stuff like Transformers and Attention that were invented by other labs?

	▲	SwtCyber 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Architecture is secondary right now. How Anthropic cleaned up the datasets for training and tuned the alignment - that's the real engineering magic. OpenAI came up with GPT, but Anthropic turned it into a fully functional tool for engineers
	▲	amelius a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Mac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch These were all existing technologies. Apple's contribution is in making them more user friendly for some definition of user and friendly. > Apple Silicon They made some improvements here, but they bought an IC designer firm to do it. Most of the real innovation in hardware is still coming from the likes of TSMC, ASML.

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ygjb a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

UI, polish, and customer experience are innovation. It takes an enormous amount of work to build consistent user experiences and build products that make choices on behalf of users that don't alienate those same users, yet Apple is able to consistently do that in ways that produce fervent customers who love their products.

I personally don't like or use most Apple products outside of my work MacBook pro, but I recognize the value and innovations there.

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solarkraft a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s what it means to build a product. So the comparison fits perfectly: Both offer the best polished (-> real-world usable) products in their category.