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dgellow 3 hours ago

The effective altruist and longtermist crowd are into it as a religion. They would happily sacrifice anything human to satisfy their dreams of AI. They care way more about what the AI needs than their what their fellow humans need. We will end up with an AGI having better living and working conditions than humans and the whole AI industry will be clapping

vrganj an hour ago | parent [-]

It's an ideological thing. (We just had a conversation about ideology actually, remember?)

Capitalism has always been a tension between capitalists, who want maximum return on capital and workers, who want pesky things like a living wage, sick leave or safe work conditions.

For the longest time, the only power labor has had to get those things was the power of collective bargaining. No agreement with your workers meant no production happened.

Now, there's finally a chance at salvation. The capitalist Messiah is AGI and it will finally deliver them from those annoying laborers.

This ideological bent is why they're putting everything they have into AI. It's why VCs and their fellow capitalists are going so crazy.

They see it as a way to finally solve the contradictions of their ideology, but in reality it'd only create a new one: If everyone's out of a job, who will buy their products?

eloisius 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If they had AGI, why would they need consumers anymore? Just use your drone army to secure all natural resources and produce whatever you need for yourself. Other humans are just pets.

inigyou an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish I was smart enough to credibly promise capitalists they could replace all their workers.

It doesn't matter that I can't do it. They'll pay me lots of money if they think I can.

thelastgallon 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Capitalism has always been a tension between capitalists, who want maximum return on capital and workers, who want pesky things like a living wage, sick leave or safe work conditions.

The underlying purpose of AI is to allow wealth to access skill while removing from the skilled the ability to access wealth. (read on HN, not my words)

danqqqq an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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