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jrflo 10 hours ago

If you're primarily writing code yourself or meticulously reviewing the output from agents, then you're right. However, if you tried to have any of those models one-shot an app or do some highly agentic work, they would certainly fail. That's the future people are looking towards with these valuations: when its no longer economical for humans to write or even understand code, just let the models drive because they are superhuman at it. Not saying we are there today, but that's when you really start to see the benefit of more expensive models. Luna or Deepseek flash would never find any of the mathematical discoveries or security exploits that the larger models can find.

_kulang 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Claude is certainly able to make a superhuman mess. All of its efficacy still hinges upon good architecture and programming principles, which do not seem to be instilled in the model by anything other than luck

malux85 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not convinced that one-shotting things is anything other than a vanity-metric.

Maybe in the distant future where quickly building a visualisation to help explain some concept would be valuable to one shot quickly - but "One shotting an app" is ridiculous because app development (or any development) is never "build it and then finish" but is an interative process, testing feedback, user feedback, and even app-creator communication ambiguity means being able to "one shot an app" is pretty worthless

yogthos 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been using GLM 5.3 for the past week, and I find to does a straight up better job than Opus 5 on my projects. I use both for agentic work, and GLM tends to dig deeper into tasks on the latest version.

formvoltron 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But.. what is it that anthropic does that cannot be replicated by open models teamed up with open source? Heck open source even has cheap AI to help write the code now.

jrflo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Make new mathematical discoveries, and the security capabilities of the closed models have not yet been rivaled by open ones.

Also, just because a model is open now doesn't mean it will always be. If/when China or meta catches up to the frontier, they'll instantly go closed source. China, the biggest surveillance state in the world, would love to have all user data pouring in to its servers. It's just a business strategy, they're not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.

SV_BubbleTime 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The moat is money. How do you get more money? Point to your moat and ask for more money!