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ffsm8 2 hours ago

It's also unclear wherever the subscription price is the real cost, or the API.

I suspect it's closer to the sub price and anthropic is just milking their API users, but that's something you'd only know from the inside

drawnwren an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Generally speaking, B2B prices are rarely supply-and-demand priced in the usual sense.

YC has advised startups in the past that it's easier to sell a single $100k customer than 100 $1k customers.

It would also be relatively surprising to learn that i.e. the Chinese providers are OOMs better at inference than OAI/Anthropic (like their prices would imply if they were in a perfectly competitive market).

bonoboTP an hour ago | parent [-]

Chinese prices aren't really OOM cheaper. Deepseek recently did a big price hike too.

drawnwren 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Fair, I hadn't looked recently. It looks like currently kimi is either 1/2 or 1/4 Ant pricing depending on whether you think Opus 5 is usable or not. (Deepseek is still an OOM though)

bonoboTP an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Costs also have to include the amortized training costs.

But the API price is likely simply regular supply and demand, charging as much as the market will pay. Corporations are dropping insane amounts because it's still peanuts for many industries. Software has just been ridiculously cheap before AI. So high prices are still low for companies if it eases some bottlenecks.

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HeatrayEnjoyer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Open weight SOTA models are not greatly cheaper than Anthropic and providers don't have to cover training capex.