Seems like this could be categorized as yet another reason why software developers are not engineers.

sscaryterry 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I happen to be both. Engineering is a mindset, and to call yourself an engineer, people should be at least this: https://www.internationalengineeringalliance.org/accords/was...

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arthurjj 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A few years ago a software engineer asked a few Chemical/Civil/Mechanical engineers and the majority of "real" engineers seemed to think we were [1]. I'm not aware of a better study but happy to be proven wrong, since I generally refer to myself as a Software Developer

[1] https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/are-we-really-engineers/

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grebc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I never understood why actual engineers(eg. Civil) have not complained more that programmers/coders stole that title.

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indoorfish an hour ago | parent | next [-]

they have, loudly and repeatedly, it doesn't really make it very far on HN for obvious reasons.

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grebc an hour ago | parent [-]

Not sure it’s obvious reasons, but understandable, sure. When someone questions your credentials the default is to tell them to jump, whether that’s a good idea or not.

	▲	Jensson 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		HN removes every post that doesn't get upvotes, especially if they get lots of comments.

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satvikpendem an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would they care? And a lot of them turned to coding anyway.

	▲	cush 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Because Engineering is an incredibly rigorous discipline and title that requires so much work to obtain. It’s like a massage therapist calling themself a doctor. Computer Science isn’t Engineering.

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hirvi74 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do people seriously care about this debate? I don't even use the term software engineer. I usually just say [computer] programmer. Though depending on my mood I might say I am virtual firefighter, and believe me, there are always virtual fires that need to be put out.

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EA-3167 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Absolutely. Engineering is defined by it learning from history, it's an art build up from thousands of years of human attempts to alter the world around them. In a modern sense engineers inevitably require a certain amount of schooling, certification, and most critically of all professional and ethical standards.