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| 14 points by herbertl 4 hours ago | 7 comments | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | SwellJoe an hour ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I've been researching AI detection (and also made a game to see if humans can quickly detect AI writing just based on style in a short passage: https://prose-or-con.com/ as a way to gather data and to sate my own curiosity about whether I can actually detect AI writing reliably...I can, but not as reliably as I thought). Storyscope (https://github.com/jenna-russell/storyscope) is a really interesting concept, and one I'm in the process of reproducing and expanding on, even though it is less accurate on direct detection than something like BERT or Binoculars. It is interesting because the usual obfuscation tactics, even having a human transcribe and rephrase the story don't work; it looks at the story itself, rather than word use and grammatical quirks, etc. Plot, agents, temporal structure. So far, AI writing is detectable to a pretty high degree, though I think it'll be a war of attrition that AI eventually wins. And, all the detectors are the same tools one could use to create undetectable AI writing; AI loves to iterate in a loop, seems like iterating to rewrite to be undetectable is a soluble problem (though models currently probably would end up writing worse and worse to avoid detection, and the current best models have begun integrating watermarking, pushing back the defeat of human writers for some time). | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | beloch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
"So here’s what I would love: A bookstore for humans by humans. A Humazon.com. Or even just a BookBud recommendation service where the authors are fully vetted (they’re your buds!)." -------------- To do what the author of this post asks for is incredibly difficult. You can't reliably use a LLM to detect the output of other LLM's. You can't trust user reviews to distinguish AI from human writers because AI can easily produce reviews. You'd basically need to form a central gate-keeping authority that decides who is allowed and who isn't. This would be resource intensive and fraught with problems. (e.g. How many authors would sue if they were blocked as the result of a false positive? How many using LLM's to write their material would brazenly sue for being blocked too?) It really bothers me that one of the biggest problems with LLM's is how difficult it is to filter out what they produce. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | A_D_E_P_T an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
This is a remarkably magnanimous and even-tempered post. Most authors (e.g. Charlie Stross) really hate AI, feel personally affronted by it, and lose their cool when they talk about it. I agree with Howey's sentiments. AI-written books aren't bad in themselves -- they're not ontologically bad -- but they tend to be, by their very nature, derivative. Narrative quality is, as yet, still quite poor. And self-publishing on Amazon.com is full of that stuff. (I've long since stopped buying self-published stuff on Amazon on account of low-quality content, and Amazon's review system seems severely broken.) Humazon would be a welcome thing. Or even a "human written" flag for books on Amazon. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pinkshellx an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Soil. Earth. Nature. A smile. The smell of a newborn’s shit. Welcome to Earth. Where books are made. By hand. By human hands. The same hands that grab dongs when peeing and tuck them while pooping. Stand up with it still tucked, you look like a girl. lol. Take your picture. Blackmail. Welcome to Planet Earth. A place for humans. | |||||||||||||||||