So scientists are all leaving for europe and billionaires are all moving to texas and ... is this what you mean?

All of the scientists! Oh my.

No I didn't mean anything quite that fanciful, I'm referring to net migration between China and the US. Are more people leaving the US for China, or are more people leaving China for the US? It's a crude measurement, but it beats online doomerism.

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cyanydeez 4 hours ago | parent [-]

China is working to do this: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03657-6

They are definitely getting immigrants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_China

High quality scientists leaving UK and US: https://www.nationpress.com/sciencetech/10-scientists-quit-u...

You'll need to clarify what you value about the immigration arguement.

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EA-3167 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I've already been very clear, you simply seem unable or unwilling to read the word "net" in my posts. I appreciate that China is doing many exciting things and happily unlike many in both China and the US I don't see human progress as a zero sum game either. None of that changes what I said however, or the reality of net migration between China and the US.

	▲	cyanydeez 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		yes, ok, net, so what you care about is poor people coming to america; as oppose to smart people leaving it. That's what's confusing. Right, your pov is about body count as opposed to any other useful metric. You want to change it? Are you being racist or what. What exactly is the argument "a bunch of poor people want to come here, even when we're giant fascists, #winning" See, I don't know if you're actually making an argument from the absurd, but if you're trying to win the America is actually desireable, you might want to gauge what exactly is being desired.