With previous engineering trends like blockchains and microservices, you could choose not to jump on the bandwagon. However the coding agents trend is different and is changing the very fabric (sry for Claudeism) of software engineering, for better or worse. I do know we will never go back to mainly programming through code again, that’s for sure.

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Nextgrid 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm starting to think there is no AI bandwagon per-se - instead the bandwagon most people associate with AI-assisted development is more a bandwagon of sloppy code and low standards - which irresponsible use of AI enables but isn't a prerequisite for (outsourcing sweatshops have been practicing it long before the dawn of LLMs).

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spacechild1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fortunately, I haven't jumped the bandwagon yet, so I don't even have to think about going back :)

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gdulli an hour ago | parent [-]

People who are trying to sell you AI and people who are now dependent on it are desperate for you to believe in its inevitability.

	▲	dominotw 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		i used to think i love coding. putting some music on and getting into the zone churing code was the best feeling. stragnely i dont miss that feeling and kind of dread going back to it

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Foobar8568 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Knowledge work has changed...But it doesn't solve company internal governance nor politics. When it takes anywhere between 2 weeks and 3months to do anything ( including approvals for non prod access) in most organizations...Code has never been the problem.

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solomatov an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>you could choose not to jump on the bandwagon

I think it's not an option. The benefits are just too large for me.

>I do know we will never go back to mainly programming through code again, that’s for sure.

I think, in some niches, i.e. where there's something not well represented in the training set, it still makes sense to write code by hand. But I am not sure that it will continue.

	▲	kreativ_py an hour ago \| parent [-]
		poor reading comprehension, re-read and try again

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skydhash an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I do know we will never go back to mainly programming through code again, that’s for sure.

Say who?

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reactordev an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There are still companies who refuse to believe this and still put Senior+ devs through hell during an interview process with junior level algorithm memorization.

In all aspects there will be dinosaurs and deniers and there will be embracers.

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spacechild1 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

How can you assess the output of coding agents if you don't know about algorithms and other fundamentals of software engineering?

	▲	foldr an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I don’t particularly mind algorithmic interview questions (they’re at least self-contained, somewhat objective, and something you can prepare for), but most software engineering has always been done by people with no knowledge of algorithms or compsci fundamentals. What’s being lost is coding fluency, not compsci knowledge.

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watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no such thing as "junior level algorithm".

And one does not memorize algorithms.

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saulpw an hour ago | parent [-]

bubblesort has entered the chat

	▲	Izkata 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Better example, leetcode interviews became so popular because people were memorizing FizzBuzz and they needed an alternative (but said interviewers didn't fully understand the purpose of FizzBuzz and though "harder means better, right?").