I don’t understand the impulse to whine and complain about the aesthetics of a big company.

> a little more cringey and clique

Why on earth do I care if someone thinks Cloudflare is cringe? What is interesting about that? They are following the market like everyone else.

> Too many ways to do the same thing, none of them great…They got D1 (SQLite serverless), Durable Objects with their own SQLite, KV, R2, Queues, and Hyperdrive to speed up external Postgres or MySQL.

What does this have to do with AI psychosis? I thought that was the thesis of this article? As I said, it’s just directionless complaining.

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gegtik 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

i read the article as caring about the values, principles, and goals of the human beings driving it.

if you are looking exclusively at compiled bits and bytes and/or quarterly statements then I agree, human/societal judgment seems irrelevant.

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daishi55 6 hours ago | parent [-]

What values and principles are supposed to be preventing cloudflare, the internet and technology company, from exploring hot new internet markets and technologies?

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orliesaurus 6 hours ago | parent [-]

the constant "fights" with Vercel instead of delivering shareholder value by refining the product

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esseph 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not even sure if I would know who Vercel is if I were at Cloudflare. The scale between the two is staggeringly different.

	▲	Plont 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That makes it worse, not better.

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ajkjk 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because it affects people personally? They are using the stuff that's being neglected, and they could be using the stuff that is being half-assed if it's better.

And I don't believe it has to do with the market. I've worked at a company that was run by pms doing stupid shit. It was dressed up as what the business needed, but it was sheer incompetence. Better people in exactly the same situation would have produced better results by doing different stuff. It's just a culture, not market pressure.

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daishi55 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Not directing this at you personally. But I've heard a lot of mediocre engineers whine and complain about PMs, MBAs, C-suite, etc. The best engineers I don't hear complaining much at all. Just a thought.

And sorry but I don't agree that launching AI products in 2026 is not related to the market. I think that's the whole basis for the decision.

	▲	ajkjk 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I didn't say that AI products aren't related to the market. The problem is not that they're AI it's that they're badly done.
	▲	GPerson 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Do you think people whose circumstances are favorable to them are more likely to succeed and less likely to complain?
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