I’m not a single issue voter but the sheer incompetence of this particular decision is just too damning. It rightly caused friction with our 5 eyes partners. I would expect readers of hackernews to appreciate how dumb and impossible the request was.

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louthy 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> "It rightly caused friction with our 5 eyes partners"

That is such a weird take. "It rightly caused friction with Privacy International" might be a better position to take ;)

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robbomacrae 11 hours ago | parent [-]

We were demanding the ability to spy on the citizens of our closest allies.

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mrguyorama 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That is the entire point of FiveEyes. That is a feature.

The US is technically not allowed to spy on it's own citizens. However, legally speaking, if the UK spies on your citizens and forwards whatever is interesting, it's not the US spying on it's own citizens.

You say this like the FBI hasn't asked Apple for a back door before here in the US

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robbomacrae 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Then why (and I'm not saying I like the guy) did JD Vance come out so publicly against it? I mean you could certainly argue that was all theater and the UK was indeed doing the US's bidding but at some point you have to apply Occam's razor. The end result is Apple don't offer Advanced Data Protection (encryption) to UK users iCloud backups so its not like that "feature" has worked out.

	▲	louthy 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> I mean you could certainly argue that was all theater It was all theatre.