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modeless 2 hours ago

The AI researchers I know often say they expect the AI to replace their own jobs.

HarHarVeryFunny 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If Karpathy's "auto-research" is at all representative of typical "AI research", then presumably it will!

glimshe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've seen people saying that with other technologies. Years later, they are still in the same job but a lot richer.

palmotea 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The AI researchers I know often say they expect the AI to replace their own jobs.

Are they expecting the equity they get in some AI company will save them personally from economic ruin, so they're fine with that outcome for everyone else?

Or are they expecting AI technology will magically make our society communist?

oaweoifjwpo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Are they expecting the equity they get in some AI company will save them personally from economic ruin, so they're fine with that outcome?

Yes. Basically based on my conversations with coworkers who went to these frontier AI labs: this is happening anyway, so they may as well make the money while they still can.

sigbottle an hour ago | parent | next [-]

But making money isn't enough, though? If you think about it from this perspective, what matters far more is connections with the wealthy, or enough power to defend yourself.

Which is different from just being rich and chilling. Rich and chilling implies a stable society. But life isn't a video game where you hit some Absolute Level 99 and are impervious to everything. There's no outside justificatior for you - only you are. In this hypothetical society, when GrokBots rule the world, you think they'll care that you're a millionaire? You need to get into the inner circle.

I see some really smart professors/PhDs even, going to SV, starting startups, networking, etc. That is consistent with the worldview.

But someone who says that AI can replace them but just works at a lab, at least has the belief that they will be automated last. Maybe they believe they can become friends with the AI, I don't know. But let's stop and analyze the situation with a bit more nuance, for more than like, 5 seconds.

palmotea an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> this is happening anyway, so they may as well make the money while they still can.

There's got to be a special name for that kind of treachery. I suppose "collaboration," but that doesn't have a nasty enough ring to it.

Like a fascist occupation, that dystopia isn't "happening anyway" without collaborators.

GolfPopper an hour ago | parent | next [-]

'Judas goat' perhaps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat

mrhottakes an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Somebody might do <bad thing> and get rich, might as well be me."

I just call these people "cowards"

Laurel1234 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Traitors to humanity

redsocksfan45 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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jonas21 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I know people who believe the end state is a Star Trek-style post-scarcity world.

This is not the same thing as communism. You can still have private ownership, differing levels of wealth, competition, and individualism. It's just that having money is not necessary for survival or to lead a reasonably comfortable life.

And they don't believe it will magically happen -- it will take intentional action by governments to get there. This is, perhaps, the reason the AI labs are talking so much about AI replacing people's jobs. It's not arrogance, it's to make sure our leaders are thinking about this now instead of when it's too late to guide the outcome.

tokioyoyo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The former.