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mmillin 3 hours ago

I see a lot of people below arguing that this isn’t the fault of the EU policy but the companies. I think that’s being overly charitable to the policy. While you can be rightly upset with the companies behavior, ultimately policy has to work with the incentives it creates. The policy in its current form allows for meeting requirements with annoying cookie banner opt-outs while keeping the lucrative business of tracking. If we don’t want that, the policy should be changed. Don’t expect companies to go against their interests here, even if some will actually be thoughtful and find a way to do so. The “Purpose Of a System Is What It Does” principle applies, and the purpose of the EU policy seems to be cookie banners for most sites.

mnewme 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Actually the purpose was not to invade our privacy as much, which we do and there is active lobbying (for example by Google) against any better solution: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want...

nonethewiser 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Classic over-regulation producing unintended side effects

clan an hour ago | parent [-]

Really?

Because the industry really respected DNT[0]?

Regulations are needed when the kids cannot play nice in the school yard.

GDPR is actually not that bad if you read it rather than subscribing to much of the malicious compliance we see.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track

tempest_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nah fuck the companies and their horse shit.

99% percent of them intentionally turn the "decline" choice into a 5 - 10 step game of dark patterns even though the EU policy says it should be equally easy to decline. They know its bullshit but they also know the chance that someone will drag them through court is low.

naravara 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I’ve long believed that making companies liable for paying damages if PII is leaked in a data breach would be the best way to stop excessive tracking. If you force them to have to manage user data like they’re handling radioactive waste then the expense and overhead involved is a natural drag on the business logic that drives the bottomless appetite for data collection. They’ll collect it if they actually need it, and they’ll take great pains to secure it.

mnewme 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Actually having worked in big companies,many of them just track everything, but don’t actually use the data, which is even worse.

dgellow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s already part of the EU regulations people in the comments complain about

Aurornis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The most valuable data breach content isn’t your advertising tracking data, though.

It would be your payment information, which is orthogonal to most of the tracking data.

The black market demand for leaked advertising-related tracking data is basically nil, except maybe in cases where it’s related to something else exploitable or usable for blackmail like if someone frequents cryptocurrency exchanges or porn sites. Nobody cares to pay for black market data about you shopping for towels on Amazon or things like that.

cindyllm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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