I love Svelte and SvelteKit. But I keep going back to the batteries-included Django simply for the ORM, the admin backend and authentication packages. Nothing in the JS ecosystem comes close to it in terms of simplicity and integration-level and using third party modules always feels hacky and they pull in a thousand other dependencies.

I wish SvelteKit would become batteries-included, but that's not the direction they have in mind -- which is totally fair. It makes me sad nonetheless.

We definitely do want to move in that direction!

For now, we have add-ons for stuff like drizzle and better-auth (https://svelte.dev/docs/cli/overview) which makes it relatively easy to set up these things without committing the framework itself to a particular set of choices. But I totally agree that a lot of the time it's nicer to just not have to think about it. Our current focus is on laying foundations (async Svelte, remote functions, custom renderers etc) but it's very much on our medium term radar.

> Nothing in the JS ecosystem comes close to it in terms of simplicity and integration-level

Adonisjs has existed for more than 10 years. I’ve used Django for many years and I find Adonis way better (and ages more modern) than Django.