| ▲ | Covert CIA program said to be behind mysterious attacks on Galápagos boats(washingtonpost.com) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 30 points by u1hcw9nx 7 hours ago | 20 comments | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bravetraveler 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | herbst 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I mean we all knew the US is bombing innocent fisher man outside their jurisdiction. That is exactly what central European media seemed to agree on. We still miss the "why" and how there are no consequences so far | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pjc50 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Personally I think governments shouldn't just be able to order people killed, but that's just a European view. (really the difference between the constitutional law approach which only protects US citizens and the human rights approach of ECHR which protects humans) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Jamesbeam 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I understand why they do it. Every pound that makes it to America has the potential to kill thousands of Americans. But the way they try to solve this problem looks kinda dumb to me. This will just go as well as the three-week special operation in Iran. The people they kill are innocent, until proven guilty in front of a court. That is a core principle that we believe in if we are law-abiding citizens. Those Fishermen never had the chance to defend themselves in front of a court. Their crime was being born in the wrong place. I find that not sufficient to sentence them to death. Also you need to win the people over or they are going to fuck you. You don’t win the people over, you get Vietnam or Afghanistan. How do you win the people over, if everyone in the village those fishermen lived in knows you murdered their friends? People who simply had no choice to say no to the cartels for the sake of their families, who are now widows and orphans. Those poor Fishermen are really stuck between a rock and a hard place. What is most likely going to happen now is, those widows will turn to the cartels who now offer them food and support. Now those women say fuck the Americans. I will sit with my children on these drug boats until the day I die, to kill as many of them as possible. I am going to celebrate every American dying of an overdose. What do I have to lose? They already killed my husband, they can kill me as well. And that’s how the cartels will get women and children on these boats, and now what? It’s checkmate. A single video gets out how CIA covert operations kill innocent women and children on those boats, the cartels win. Those attacks are nothing more than stupid PR stunts and the CIA using these poor souls as guinea pigs for their drone shenanigans. It neither solves the cartels’ logistics nor the main problem. Americans fucking love their drugs. And as long as there is a lucrative black market, there will be people supplying it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||