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spongebobstoes 2 hours ago

could we relax the security around electric planes, because they don't carry as much highly explosive material?

that could make it much more convenient and appealing as a travel method

SoftTalker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You don't see megawatt-hours of energy in batteries as potentially dangerous?

rootusrootus 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'd be stunned if they put a mWh of battery on a plane. This plane in particular only has a range of 120 miles electric-only, so it probably has a pack roughly similar to a modern electric pickup. 200 kWh plus or minus.

By comparison, a regular regional jet probably has around 40 mWh of energy in jet fuel.

datadrivenangel 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Jetfuel is dense and energetic.

SoftTalker 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes it is. And there's no getting around that, a battery is just chemically-stored energy, the same in that sense as kerosene.

Skwid 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Total energy is going to be comparable for aircraft with similar ranges, I don't think a lithium fire is any less unpleasant than a Jet-A fire for for anyone nearby.

Even if the batteries could be made entirely inert, the ability to deliver a plane sized slug of kinetic energy to a building of your choice retains most of the danger.

Even if that could be avoided, a plane must remain operational enough throughout all flights to avoid falling out of the sky.

It would take a large bomb to take out a whole bus load of passengers, a very small one to put safety critical systems of a plane out of action.

As much as I would appreciate this happening, I don't think electric planes are going to make it happen.

rootusrootus 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

> lithium fire

Nit: a lithium ion battery fire isn't a lithium fire, it's the electrolyte. Lithium ion batteries don't use elemental lithium. Thankfully.

whatever1 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jet fuel, like diesel are not flammable, let alone explosive. They are combustible.

Gasoline on the other hand …

toasty228 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They cary the same amount of energy

toss1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting thought, but I'm not sure the (admittedly flammable & explosive) fuel load is the main threat posed by a hijacked aircraft — the large mass at velocity can still to major damage and casualties wherever it is crashed.

Plus, depending on the battery chemistry, that material could also create a serious fire; it is a lot of stored energy either way.

So, I would not wait for it

hollow-moe an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Nope, because we all know about the race to the bottom of all companies and the littlest crack or wiggle room will be used to save a penny and kill people.