| ▲ | cloudie78 3 hours ago |
| Reminder to everyone, treat these as trojans. Run them isolated from the rest of your system. Give it a full desktop in a VM if you want to, just not direct access to your system. |
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| ▲ | debazel 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| And that's not a joke, I made the mistake of installing this on my Windows machine just to test it out quickly last week. It created 2 new users and then assigned new NTFS permissions for every single file under my user directory to them. This of course wrecked havoc, ssh refused to work, several applications refusing to start and a ton of permission errors. It did this without even a warning in the background and it also does not undo any of it when you uninstall it. It took around 3 hours to fix it by updating ~10 million NTFS permissions for every single file under my user directory. |
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| ▲ | semyonsh 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | At that point I'd rather re-install the whole machine. Beats 3 hours of wrangling NTFS permissions and inheritance. | | |
| ▲ | nehal3m 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If you’re doing that anyway you might as well install a hypervisor and layer your OS on top. That way you can snapshot before your LLM with root fucks everything up again. | | |
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| ▲ | pjmlp 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| With exception of VSCode, because I have no choice due to some plugins, or apps required by customer projects where I have no other option as well, nothing else based on Electron pollutes my computers. |
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| ▲ | cloudie78 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You always have a choice to use/learn/make a different tool. It’s a prison of your own making. I’ve personally adopted a process where I structure my projects to ALWAYS keep credentials and sensitive information in a separate directory. The working copy gets rsynced to and from a dedicated VM with whatever $HARNESS. |
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| ▲ | perching_aix 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They ship with their own sandboxing by default, and Codex specifically is open source. |
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| ▲ | rawland 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’d wait. Remember when Chromium downloaded and installed binary blobs. Also in the news: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expa... "The American private sector is the most innovative and
technologically advanced in the world, and its scale,
speed, and capacity secure a critical offensive cyber
advantage for the United States."
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > and Codex specifically is open source. Since we now have three "Codex"es, I think it's worth specifying you're talking about codex-cli/tui. Codex the hosted version and Codex the GUI are both fully proprietary I think (besides the codex-cli/tui parts they use, I'm guessing mainly the app-server stuff). | | | |
| ▲ | wahnfrieden 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This app is NOT open source | |
| ▲ | avazhi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system. | | |
| ▲ | perching_aix 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? No. > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. It wasn't. > Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system. Sounds about right. | |
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| ▲ | badcafe23423435 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | if it is open source why no exist any fork? why I can remove openai model default from instalation? |
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| ▲ | fragmede 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| How do I get it to fix my Bluetooth if I do that? If you've been AI-pilled, 2026 is the year of Linux desktop because instead of dicking around with config files, I can just tell AI to fix python. |
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| ▲ | cloudie78 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you want to be security conscious don’t give it access to your system directly. Ask it to guide you through the information gathering part of the problem solving process and use your brain and judgment if it actually needs the information/data it’s attempting to access. If you can’t make that judgement call because of lack of knowledge/familiarity it’s okay - spawn a new fresh chat, get up to speed on the topic first and then resume. That way you accomplish three things: you learn something new, you fix your problem and you don’t let a Trojan do whatever the hell it wants to your box which among other thing contains all the browser sessions and cookies :) | |
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > How do I get it to fix my Bluetooth if I do that? Manual tool calls. I ask AI to give me all the necessary reconnaissance commands, then I run them myself on the host and paste the output on the SSH connection into the guest virtual machine where the harness is running. The AI then either figures it out and gives me the answer or runs additional tool calls by me. Repeat until annoying task is done, interrupt if anything suspicious shows up at any point. | |
| ▲ | jwrallie 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Bluetooth is the one thing I had problems in the past on GNU/Linux, Windows, macOS, Android and iOS. Linux is the only mentioned platform where you could technically give Codex root and let it fix it :) I guess OpenBSD is the only OS where I never had any problem with Bluetooth audio. | |
| ▲ | rawland 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | pi.dev, local model, (RAG-ed) copy of archwiki. You are more able than you believe. Already now, no permission needed. | | |
| ▲ | couscouspie 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | How is Hermes different in that regard? Also note, that RAG and even vector search are more paths of the early days that didn't prove too valuable. Just let your agent search it directly and optionally create an index as a default entrypoint for common topics. | | | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They're talking about letting the agent access the bluetooth stuff, not about where to get information/knowledge from. | |
| ▲ | trvz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Literally the same security risk. |
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| ▲ | Muromec an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My bluetooth jusy works actually. By the way I use arch | |
| ▲ | dml2135 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Use NixOS, only give your model access to the config in a git repo, zero access to the actual host machine. | | |
| ▲ | stcg 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That is also what I do now (both with NixOs and Guix Os), both for personal computers and for servers. - I inspect the agent's changes, and only apply them - at once - if they are OK. So I have no half applied bad changes to my system, and I can catch critical mistakes before they are applied. - I can roll back the changes by just doing a `git revert` and reapplying - The agent cannot read secrets or unrelated data, just config. - The agent gets the full configuration of all systems at once, without having to maintain parallel documentation (which can get out of sync) or rediscover each time from scratch (access my running systems, for example with `ssh root@server`). - It's harder for the agent to miss some aspect of the configuration, because it's all in my dotfiles. If it's not there, it's nowhere |
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| ▲ | cyanydeez 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I just use a local model; its too dumb to hack into NSA just to fix my bluetooth. |
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