Only because it was cheaper to migrate Android to Kotlin instead of Dart. JetBrains needs Google more than Google needs JetBrains.

You're thinking of Google as a single top down company. It isn't. Think of it as an anarchy of warlords where each pulls the strings and management doesn't really know what's going on.

Flutter made a lot of sense during the Oracle lawsuit when Google needed a way to show Oracle that it can pivot from Java. Now it no longer makes sense but the inertia is too deep.

My guess is that flutter is sold internally through the Huawei support as a leg within China.

Android used to be its own kingdom separate from rest of Google. And maybe still is.

> It’s actually much easier to build a performant macOS app with flutter than with SwiftUI.

Got any case studies?

I like kotlin a lot but I didn't get to fully test KMP and Kotlin Compose. I chose flutter because I liked dart's wasm story better than kotlins.

I've made a huge critic towards Flutter in another comment of mine, but adoption isn't it: the biggest bank in Brazil, with 135 million clients, is a digital bank whose sole interface is their Flutter app. They are different regarding tech choices (they use Clojure on the backend too), but I think it's a huge testament of how far along Flutter adoption has come.

Also, Google dogfoods it quite a bit.

Is that true though? I'm reading HN on an app built using Flutter. I had no idea until recently, so I would assume more apps could use it without my knowledge.

I understand it's limitations vs native apps, but there's quite a few cases where it really doesn't matter.

The biggest one for me is always the fear it will be abandoned. Pretty much goes for any cross platform app framework though.

The creator of flutter was on here saying that 1/3 of all apps on the App Store use it. That seems to be a lot more than “nobody”.

>but, nobody uses it.

I used to work at ByteDance and they alone employed I think more than 800 Flutter Devs. Douyin uses Flutter (the Chinese version of TikTok), Grab and Ebay use it, Alibaba and Baidu did too. Toyota and Volkswagen I think both use Flutter. Nubank I think is also a flutter app and they alone have like one hundred million some users.

With the popularity in the Chinese ecosystem alone there's gotta be a billion plus people using flutter.

Google AdSense uses it.

Been using it for six years with fairly high success: https://stockevents.app

In fact AdWords is the reason Dart was still around when Flutter came to be.