>their subscription now goes way further than OpenAI or Anthropic.

Until it doesn't...

Honestly, this entire OpenAI reset credit fiasco this past week has convinced me to rip off the Codex and Claude Code bandaids and start building my own proper Pi Coding Agent running models that I select and pay for on openrouter.

And I am feeling a lot better about it now that I've finally got it working.

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hgoel an hour ago | parent | next [-]

>Until it doesn't...

I don't get the point of this. We all seem to agree that these companies have almost no moat, if one stops being a good deal, you can switch to another. That doesn't invalidate the existence of a deal that is currently good.

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johnnyApplePRNG an hour ago | parent [-]

No, it doesn't.

My point was that chasing deals like this is just kicking the can down the road. You're going to have to reckon with harsh price increases sooner or later.

So I have resolved to avoid that future-dreading and fixed it, basically.

	▲	andybak 33 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		My entire digital existence for the last 20 years or so has been a parasitical relationship with VC funding. They keep throwing money at business models that involve building market share and I keep benefiting. It hasn't stopped working yet.

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unglaublich 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But still for US frontier you're paying 10-20x more per token compared to their limited subscriptions. For China frontier you'll be good though, and that might be the future anyway.

	▲	johnnyApplePRNG an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Relying on a single frontier model to just zero-shot all the work is so 2025. Deepseek V4 Flash 0731 is surprisingly capable and cheap. [0] Checkout pi coding agent. You can create as many different sub-agents as you wish, to specialize and understand and tackle or pass off any problem you like. It's refreshing, really. I feel like a coder in control again. [0] https://arcprize.org/results/deepseek-v4-flash-0731
	▲	maxdo 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Grok is cheaper vs real Chinese frontier aka kimi. Sponsored or not.

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embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Honestly, this entire OpenAI reset credit fiasco this past week

Huh, what's happened? I'm on the 20x plan and haven't noticed any fiasco, what went down exactly?

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ModernMech 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Nothing really, when model usage goes up they do a credit. They did two last week.

	▲	wetoastfood 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Your reason for the rate limit reset is speculative. Here's a history of them and tweets that correspond to when they happen. Others can be the judge if they believe the stated reasons or not: https://codex-resets.com/