I can respect if you say you hate their guts. Everyone has their worldview. But over moral or ethical stand? You don't have any if you're using Chinese models, or fly Middle East airlines, or countless of other products. Don't delude yourself.

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LastTrain 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t like what is happening in my country, Elon is a huge part of that and I don’t want to reward it. I’m not a fanatic, but if all other things are equal I can certainly factor social responsibility into the equation. Fuck that rage baiting xenophobic nazi-salute throwing asshole. [edit spelling]

	▲	randomNumber7 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You are confusing cause and effect imho.

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epolanski 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Chinese models are open, Grok is not.

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andriy_koval 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

chances are high they are open for now because they infiltrating market and collecting data.

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mirekrusin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

collecting data by making them open weight? where is logic in that?

	▲	andriy_koval 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Infiltraiting market by making them open weight, then majority users still use official API, and you have answer to your question.

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scottyah 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They aren't though? Only a subset are. Are you aware that there are multiple competing Chinese companies making models?