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Jcampuzano2 an hour ago

As polarizing as grok is, it was basically inevitable for it to start being a real competitor given how much investment SpaceX made into its own inference capabilities.

Seems if you are okay with it, there's no reason to use anything but the highest effort levels of some other frontier models for the price.

I think Grok provides healthy competition to the other labs, though I do think they bank on groks reputation making it less appealing to many.

hackernan9000 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Curious - what is the main issue you find polarizing with grok?

Someone1234 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'd start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok_(chatbot)#Controversies_a...

And here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok_sexual_deepfake_scandal

I think polarizing is a generous way of describing the problems. My organization has outright banned Grok, because we don't trust SpaceX to hold up to contractual agreements vis-a-vis data-privacy/training. That's the level of reputational damage we're talking about here; and we use Chinese models (*hosted by US providers) for context.

arrosenberg 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not the person you are responding to, but the fact that Grok is being used to generate a ton of CSAM and pornographic deepfakes isn't great!

leerob 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

(I work on Grok) This isn't allowed. CSAM / deepfakes are against our acceptable use policy.

toasty228 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Enforce it then

leerob 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

We are and will continue to.

dd8601fn 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Is that still a thing? I assumed they would have done something about it by now.

pseudosavant 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Definitely still a thing. They just made it a paid only feature. Whereas free users used to be able to publicly ask @Grok to create these images before. So it is still going on, just not as visible now, and Elon is making sure they monetize it.

Just last week they were fighting Minnesota's law that makes creating this stuff illegal.

porridgeraisin 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, that got stopped I think.

well_ackshually 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where do you want to start, the neonazi owner, the child porn generation, or the data centers running on illegal gas turbines polluting and choking out people ?

itsdesmond 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s opinions are actively steered by a man who promotes the great replacement theory, white genocide, and remigration which is the mass forced deportation of non-whites.

porridgeraisin 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I believe it is because of the CEO and his recent forays into politics.

The model itself is great though, especially in grok build, which is a really nice harness I find myself preferring these days.

dd8601fn 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

“Recent forays into politics” almost made me blow coffee out my nose.

oulipo 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nazi salutes? Harassing women with nude pics?

inference-god 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The guy who owns it is a total fascist / psychopath ?

tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

more competition is always good

gmac 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> healthy

Kind of disappointed by how many people don't see any reason to boycott a model that nudified minors and makes money for a guy that does Nazi salutes.