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zackmorris an hour ago

Wait till we realize that nobody is buying the software we vibe code anyway.

We've seen this game before, with the Dot Bomb and 9/11. A lot of you have 6 figure jobs that will simply be gone next year after the election, never to return.

That winter lasted about 5 years until 2007 when the iPhone and social media sites like Facebook went mainstream. This winter won't end. Or more accurately, it is the end.

Maybe we should stop debating whether we're in a crisis and start looking at the 5-10 year endgame of the Singularity. We're entering the eventuality that many of us have predicted since the arrival of the internet 30+ years ago, that prices will get lower but nobody will have any money to buy anything anyway. The feeling that we're doing something wrong with our lives will continue to intensify. We'll try so hard, and get so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm turning my attention away from trying to play the job game with AI. I'm looking instead at how we can provide time/money/resources to the middle class after capitalism can no longer provide them.

A conservative friend of mine just read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, which I didn't see coming, especially since he beat me to it. In the neurodivergent spirit of not being able to do anything alone, what if we all read it?

https://oll.libertyfund.org/pages/marx-manifesto

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Man...

I'm predicting that it stops just short of what full automation can provide. Loosely the evolution of economics goes: hunter-gatherer -> agrarian- > feudalist -> capitalist -> socialist -> communist. And now solarpunk (or something).

The working class is looking forward to the next chapter, but the capitalist class is looking backward to neofeudalism.

Those two directions can't coexist, so what does the future hold? Well, it's always darkest before dawn:

"It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism." - Mark Fisher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCgkLICTskQ Mark Fisher: The Slow Cancellation of the Future

https://www.scribd.com/document/835022535/Mark-Fisher-The-Sl... (transcript)

https://goodscienceproject.org/articles/the-slow-cancellatio...

https://mediationsjournal.org/articles/end-of-world

If the endgame of capitalism is that it inevitably eats itself, then the game now isn't how to get more money and do nothing with it, but instead how to start doing something with no money.

I should add that even if I'm exploring anti-capitalist futures, that doesn't make me socialist. I don't like the 6 hour daily work requirement of many socialist societies. I think we can do better than that and get closer to 0, so that we can shrug off wage slavery and finally get real work done.

florianherrengt 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is extrapolating several steps beyond anything we actually know.

Whether people will buy AI-generated software is a different question. The problem I’m describing already exists inside businesses with paying customers.

I’m talking about established teams working on products that already have users and make money, where AI lets individual engineers introduce changes faster than the rest of the team can properly understand and review them.