| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago |
| There are 100K H1-Bs a year and 4 million grads a year in the US. Anyone who thinks H1-Bs are actually contributing to their inability to find a job is a moron. |
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| ▲ | weatherlite 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| But those H1Bs all come for a very narrow set of work - mostly software development or other adjacent roles. So your 4 million figure that counts all graduates in all fields doesn't make sense when we talk about tech. There are around 100k U.S CS graduates . You're telling me 100k H1-Bs don't make any impact on them? |
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| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You're counting only CS bachelors, in reality there's 400K graduates a year in software engineering fields. There's also only 60,000 H1-Bs a year for private companies. Lastly the majority of H1-Bs doesn't go to software engineering jobs, it's around 30-50%. There's also basically no US company hiring juniors via H1-Bs, so yeah, I'm saying it doesn't make any meaningful impact. 30K H1-Bs versus 400K grads... | | |
| ▲ | weatherlite an hour ago | parent [-] | | The way you handled those numbers makes me think you have leadership potential, perhaps even U.S presidency material |
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| ▲ | KetoManx64 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| -85,000 NEW visas granted each year, not including renewals
- The mass majority of those are going into the tech/software
- there are only around ~100k CS graduates each year
- H1B workers will take much lower salaries and benefits than their US citizen counterparts. |
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| ▲ | mikert89 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| have you been inside a big tech company? there arent many american fresh grads working there, its mostly foreign |
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| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | fl4regun 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | IME many big companies are filled with mediocre morons, or at least people who just don't care enough to do better than mediocre. Still not the fault of brown people either way. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why are you bringing racism into the equation? It's not an unreasonable thing for people of a country to think that the government should do more to protect their livelihoods over a corporation's balance sheet. | | |
| ▲ | fl4regun an hour ago | parent [-] | | perhaps if you read the comment chain you would realize I'm not the one who introduced this into the conversation. Sorry that you disagree with my position. | | |
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| ▲ | throw-the-towel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can't help but laugh that even Amazon has someone who defends its honour. | | |
| ▲ | mikert89 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | hahaha i was laughing too, of all companies for someone to defend | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake an hour ago | parent [-] | | Every $1B+ company out there has at least one person on HN eager to passionately praise and defend it online. I've never understood it. People get devoted to a company like it's their religion. |
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| ▲ | WarmWash 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >The reason you're not getting a job at Amazon isn't because of brown people, The correct framing is "The reason you're not getting a job at Amazon isn't because of people willing to work for less money," | | |
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| ▲ | iLoveOncall 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The compensation bands and the actual compensation are exactly the same regardless of immigration status. | | |
| ▲ | snovymgodym an hour ago | parent [-] | | Bands yes, packets no. Big tech companies aren't like a Government job with rigorous pay grades based on role and seniority. You can have people even within the same role and level at big tech with multiple $100k pay discrepancies. If someone's continued ability to stay in the country where they currently live is contingent on employment then they will accept worse conditions and pay. That's the entire reason why tech companies use H1B, it's not as though there's a dearth of Java developers or DevOps people who are US citizens. |
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| ▲ | mikert89 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | amazon is crammed full of indians, its one of the worst offenders. i spent 5 years at the company also nothing impressive about a senior SDE there, maybe 10 years ago it was impressive, best talent has either moved on or is L7+ | |
| ▲ | weatherlite 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What's wrong with being mediocre? |
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| ▲ | insane_dreamer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Spend some time processing tech job applications and you’ll realize you’re wrong |
