> We're talking about the claim that "Nobody and no country will trust the US or their commitments ever again."

> Which is nonsensical, as proven by all your handy stats showing that many, many people, companies, and countries still trust the US.

Hurr durr, yes, it's not an instant process. You slayed the strawman, saving you from engaging with the points everyone's making!

The collapse of the USSR took decades, too. Were they trustworthy? Is the used car salesman trustworthy, or do people just need used cars still, for now?

Hell, you don't trust my links, yet you engage (well, sorta) with me here. Right?