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gempir an hour ago

> The National Trust, which owns the land, has previously warned pilgrims not to do so, as the area is ecologically sensitive, but it seems that people still do so.

Ah okay, laying a few stones is ecologically sensitive, but if a billion dollar company wants to dig up the entire beach for a cable, that's not a problem.

ceejayoz 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe the company has at least made committments to restore it to the way it was after?

bpodgursky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I have literally never heard anyone associated with the environmental movement say:

"This area is ecologically insensitive. I'm not too worried what you do here."

Until they define some map or scale of what "ecologically sensitive" means, I put zero weight on that statement. It's meaningless. They say it about everything because it is their job to do so.

literalAardvark an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm guessing you also haven't asked. All places are very much not the same degrees of sensitive and important.

cjbgkagh 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

A common trick in mining is to send surveyors to an area they don’t want so the various interests just so happen to decide that the area being surveyed is the one with historical / ecological significance. After that has been established they send surveyors for the area they do want.

kmoser 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Why wouldn't those various interests just complain about the next area being surveyed? Why would they stop after the first?

cjbgkagh 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The ecological studies also cover the surrounding areas. They can’t say that absolutely everything is significant so to make the stronger case they pile the significance into the area they think is the likely site to be developed. Then the miners are ‘responding’ to the feedback by relocating to a less significant location that already has been ecologically studied and deemed insignificant.

bronson 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

If you say no 100% of the time, your work product won't be worth much.

bpodgursky 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

OK. What are some ecologically unimportant places in England? Somewhere I could throw up a nuclear power plant without anyone raising a fuss.

tomasphan 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Birmingham?