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| ▲ | eptcyka 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It is a lot harder to travel into England from outside of the United Kingdom than it is to travel from England to Scotland or Wales. For one, I do not need a passport to get on a train to Scotland. Nor do I need a visa. |
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| ▲ | jermaustin1 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | But you most likely have a passport, and most (western/european) countries have "automatic" visas to the UK, so for the most part, training from London to Edinburgh isn't much easier than Paris to London. Sure there is no passport control, but UK passport control is typically just scan your passport's chip and look at a camera. | | |
| ▲ | eptcyka an hour ago | parent [-] | | I work with people who actively chose to go to conference in Berlin instead of the UK due to visa issues. The passport control is a real issue one cannot just handwave away. |
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| ▲ | nephihaha 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's quicker to travel to London from Paris and Calais than it is from parts of Scotland. Even though much of the UK's infrastructure acts as a feeder into London. No, we don't need passports but some people in London seem to have the idea that it's just down the road from us, which it isn't. If you want to get to Glasgow from Campbelltown it can take you as long as three hours for example, and that's before you hit the motorway. Trying to get from west Sutherland to London is worse. Trying to get there from the Hebrides or Northen Isles even more so. |
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| ▲ | alistairSH an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| LOL, no that's simply not true. The borders between Scotland, England, and Wales are effectively like state borders in the US. Unless you see a street sign, you wouldn't know you crossed it. NI is physically on a different island, so requires a boat or plane ride. And all of the UK (ignoring the territories and ex-colonies) is on islands. And require a valid passport, passing through customs/immigration checks, and either a plane, boat, or train ride. |
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| ▲ | nephihaha 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Most of the Scottish border is fairly physically obvious, unlike Wales (although the Severn bridge is). Tens of thousands of people live on islands other than Britain and Ireland. Much of Scotland is not even considered UK mainland by delivery firms, even major places such as Perth. |
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| ▲ | alibarber 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Given that Great Britain is an island, it is still much easier to drive down the M6/A74(M) or take a hike around the Welsh borders than say, take a flight or swim. |
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| ▲ | nephihaha 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It can be quicker to reach southern England from continental Europe than from Northern Ireland or many parts of Scotland. Or the Isle of Man (which I'm well aware is a Crown Dependency.) The UK consists of a number of islands. We have hundreds in Scotland with tens of thousands of people living on the other ones. England and Wales have significant ones such as the Isle of Wight, Ynys Môn and Lindisfarne. The IOW has at least 100,000 on it. |
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| ▲ | satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| What? No it's not just as easy, especially since Brexit now there are real border issues compared to driving down the road. |
