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sd9 2 hours ago

England is a country. The UK is a country.

People in the UK would refer to England as a country and most people would actually be confused if you referred to the UK as a country, even though it technically is. People in England don’t really think of the UK as anything other than “the UK”. People from Scotland, Wales, and Ireland have more nuanced takes.

juntoalaluna 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No one is confused if you can the UK a country, or if you call England, Wales, or Scotland a country.

You might get a tedious person saying something like "actually, Wales is a principality".

arethuza 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I must admit I've never heard NI being called a country... wouldn't be the UK if there wasn't some horrible complication involved.

sd9 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe not in isolation, but if you call the UK and England both countries in the same conversation you’re going to be met with confusion.

Closi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe...? I mean not anyone I know but i'm in the UK to be fair.

It's like if you put four boxes in a box, it's not too confusing that the outer box is still a box.

leereeves 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would be confused if someone called Wales a country. I thought Wales (unlike Scotland) was a region of England and had little autonomy. TIL.

walthamstow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm English and I don't think England or Scotland or Wales are countries. People get confused because of football and rugby. They're nations. The country is the United Kingdom.

Blazara an hour ago | parent [-]

England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are constituent countries of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom is also a country. You can disagree, but you're disagreeing with the government and the international community.

jpfromlondon 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Scotland, Wales, and NI have their own parliaments at least, so from a constitutional perspective one could argue England is not a country but a state, but that is only one narrow definition.

walthamstow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a problem, I disagree with the government all the time. Scotland has less sovereignty than US states, it's not a country.

arethuza 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

The UK seems fairly relaxed about constituent parts leaving (Scotland was given a referendum, NI has option to leave if they want) - which I don't believe applies to US states?

walthamstow 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Scotland's referendum, and its parliament, were gifted by the UK Gov, they don't have any unilateral rights.

US states can't secede unilaterally either (any more!), but at least they have a right to their own leadership and militia to do something about it.